Because of age Im looking at crossbows vs my current compound. Never shot a crossbow so looking for safety first, reliability. Love fast and love light but not at the expense of it being like a tunning fork or hard to cock. Looking at 2,000. 00 or under. Looking hard at ravin or Mission and leaning to the mission. Any thoughts on these and or others? Also is the crank system on the mission any good? Also since Ive never shot one how much weight are you actually pulling with a cocking rope on something like the sub1?
Good starter crossbow for hunting.
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Because of age Im looking at crossbows vs my current compound. Never shot a crossbow so looking for safety first, reliability. Love fast and love light but not at the expense of it being like a tunning fork or hard to cock. Looking at 2,000. 00 or under. Looking hard at ravin or Mission and leaning to the mission. Any thoughts on these and or others? Also is the crank system on the mission any good? Also since Ive never shot one how much weight are you actually pulling with a cocking rope on something like the sub1?
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I personally love my sub1 and sub 1 XR they are by far the most accurate and easy to xbow out there imo. But if you like fast they are not it. Check out arrow weight and speed of them compared to other xbows. I shoot a 450 grain arrow out of my XR and it's around 380fps and sub1 331 fps. But they will shoot baseball group at 100 with 10 or 11 arrows out of the dz. Unlike my Ravins they are fast but dz arrow lucky to get 5 to 7 arrows shoot same spot since you have to use their arrows to keep warranty.
The viper 430 I have is a very nice xbow also easy to shoot. the 505 I have is fun to shoot but it takes a lot of very consistent shooting and trigger pull. But once I shot 600 grain arrows out of it it shoot easy now but I think 440 fps now.
The tenpoint crank is the best I think. Wish it was left and right hand capable tho. Ravin can crank with both hands. The mission rsd I believe it's called I have on my XR model it works but not built in. The sub1 is super easy to rope cock peak weight for a very short time then super easy into the wall/trigger box.
Decoking goes to tenpoint also.
I personally like the Ravin and mission trigger better then the tenpoints tho.
The viper 430 I have is a very nice xbow also easy to shoot. the 505 I have is fun to shoot but it takes a lot of very consistent shooting and trigger pull. But once I shot 600 grain arrows out of it it shoot easy now but I think 440 fps now.
The tenpoint crank is the best I think. Wish it was left and right hand capable tho. Ravin can crank with both hands. The mission rsd I believe it's called I have on my XR model it works but not built in. The sub1 is super easy to rope cock peak weight for a very short time then super easy into the wall/trigger box.
Decoking goes to tenpoint also.
I personally like the Ravin and mission trigger better then the tenpoints tho.
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I originally accidentally put 200.00 but changed it to 2,000.00 I assume you saw it before the change.
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When you say bolt weight is that broadhead included?
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Yes with BH or field point. Aka TAW= total arrow weight
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Take a hard look at the Killer Instinct Swat X1. It is the safest compound crossbow out there to my knowledge and is still plenty fast, shoots very accurately and has a fantastic trigger. Wyvern's online doesn't list them but has been selling them for $850 which is one heck of a good deal. You will have to call him though.
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Having sold and worked on most crossbows, I would say absolutely stay away from Barnett. We fixed more of those that almost anything.
Mission, Ravin and Ten Point are on the top of the list in no particular order.
The narrower the axle to axle the harder it is to cock by hand or using a hand held rope cocker, so a mechanical cocker is all important.
Mission, Ravin and Ten Point are on the top of the list in no particular order.
The narrower the axle to axle the harder it is to cock by hand or using a hand held rope cocker, so a mechanical cocker is all important.
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Good info TY
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TY for the replies, Will check ones mentioned out.
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In regards to crossbow warranty or for any other item, to obtain warranty, the
faulty parts are replaced with the same unless a company does an upgrade.
This is where the earlier Barnett crossbows failed. As examples: 1)Carbonite
riser did not like the cocking and shooting where it would start to crack from
the inside, working out and explode doing damage to other crossbow parts.
Plating and filling in the two large holes with JB Weld corrected this problem.
This was a personal modification. Many thousands of shots later there has been
no failures.
Newer model crossbows, this area had a gusset, plus the riser was narrowed
in width which made for a stronger riser.
2)poorly constructed cables where one part looped through the other to make
a cable. This made for a weak link that would stretch.
3)A Teflon strip placed where the cables fit in the "J" section of the rail-stock.
This was not a flat surface and not enough sticky on the Teflon strip. This allowed
the Teflon strip to wrinkle.
4)as with many crossbows, using cable slides. Cable slides are known for chewing
up the cables. Cable slides also cause additional friction when cocking and shooting
the crossbow. Eliminating this and serving the cables in that area with BCY .030
serving greatly increases cable life. One may gain a few feet per second with this
modification.
5)Barnett trigger box where one spring returns the latch to a partial up right position
after the shot. The second spring returns the latch to the upright position after the bow
string passes over when cocking the crossbow. These torsion springs were too brittle
and stiff which could fail at any time.
Going to a torsion spring with less resistance corrected this problem. This was another
personal modification.
Wishing you all the best.
Take care.
faulty parts are replaced with the same unless a company does an upgrade.
This is where the earlier Barnett crossbows failed. As examples: 1)Carbonite
riser did not like the cocking and shooting where it would start to crack from
the inside, working out and explode doing damage to other crossbow parts.
Plating and filling in the two large holes with JB Weld corrected this problem.
This was a personal modification. Many thousands of shots later there has been
no failures.
Newer model crossbows, this area had a gusset, plus the riser was narrowed
in width which made for a stronger riser.
2)poorly constructed cables where one part looped through the other to make
a cable. This made for a weak link that would stretch.
3)A Teflon strip placed where the cables fit in the "J" section of the rail-stock.
This was not a flat surface and not enough sticky on the Teflon strip. This allowed
the Teflon strip to wrinkle.
4)as with many crossbows, using cable slides. Cable slides are known for chewing
up the cables. Cable slides also cause additional friction when cocking and shooting
the crossbow. Eliminating this and serving the cables in that area with BCY .030
serving greatly increases cable life. One may gain a few feet per second with this
modification.
5)Barnett trigger box where one spring returns the latch to a partial up right position
after the shot. The second spring returns the latch to the upright position after the bow
string passes over when cocking the crossbow. These torsion springs were too brittle
and stiff which could fail at any time.
Going to a torsion spring with less resistance corrected this problem. This was another
personal modification.
Wishing you all the best.
Take care.
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In other words like I said stay away from Barnett, nothing but problems.
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also worth noting...how close is the nearest dealer and how much is the string cable set (which ravin has specific recommendations on how often to change)
We recommend changing the string and cables every 2 years or 400 shots (2 years or 200 shots for R18 and R500 Series), whichever occurs first.
total cost of ownership is important not just the initial purchase...
We recommend changing the string and cables every 2 years or 400 shots (2 years or 200 shots for R18 and R500 Series), whichever occurs first.
total cost of ownership is important not just the initial purchase...
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Had an issue with my Tenpoint (caused by me), two weeks before a hunting trip I was able to get it to the factory and they repaired it under warranty within the hour and had me back on my way home. Fast, accurate, and great customer service. Big time Tenpoint fan here!
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when i had shoulder injury get me started in crossbows, i didnt want to spend much money. i thought id be back on the mathews but that mite not ever be again. anyhow i did my homework on budget bows. reviews pointed to centerpoint sniper 370. at 225$ i figured it wasnt much of a gamble. used it four seasons and im still using it and still love it. that things a ringer on targets and plenty of power to poke through a fat buck. matter of fact i shot from brisket to hind and exited+35yrds of travel with 100grn muzzy trocar. i feel no need to get a better setup. i bought a bunch of heads on fleabay and figure im set up for 15yrs. + new strings cables as with all bows. ive used this four or five seasons now. 2-3 deer a season are just as dead as if i had a 3000$ rig.
most dont like the trigger but not me. i love that travel then break. the scope could be better in low light but i bet they come with better now days.
thats my 2cents
most dont like the trigger but not me. i love that travel then break. the scope could be better in low light but i bet they come with better now days.
thats my 2cents
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Lot of great crossbows out there give Dave Wilkins a call at Wyvern Creations and he will give you some great advice he sells a lot of different model crossbows.
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