Hey all looking for some assistance with Ropeman 1,2 or Kong Duck rope clamp. When to use what? Do I need 2 (one on Tethr and one on Linemans?) if someone could clear that up.
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Hey all looking for some assistance with Ropeman 1,2 or Kong Duck rope clamp. When to use what? Do I need 2 (one on Tethr and one on Linemans?) if someone could clear that up.
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I personally use a Ropeman 1 on both my Tether and Lineman rope. This system has worked well over 100 climbs. Never once had an issue with it slipping or any other issue. I would guess most Saddle hunters use a Ropeman 1 on their tether. I still see guys using a prusik knot on the linemans belt but I think the Ropeman 1 is a much better solution.
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I'm using 8mm ropes for my lineman and tether so I use a Kong Duck. I chose it because it will work with both 8mm and 11mm which covers the most common sizes. I stayed away from the Ropeman 2 because I read a lot about it chewing up ropes quickly. If you are only going to be using 11mm ropes the Ropeman 1 is fine.
As far as how many, that's up to you. Some people prefer having a prusik. I use the Duck on both ropes for my setup, unless I'm one-sticking, where I use my Madrock Safeguard on my tether.
As far as how many, that's up to you. Some people prefer having a prusik. I use the Duck on both ropes for my setup, unless I'm one-sticking, where I use my Madrock Safeguard on my tether.
i find that a prusick with a tender is fine for my linemans rope beause it never sees the same load as my tether. the prusick on my tether would get so tight once i sat into it that moving the knot became a 2 handed operation, even with the tender. late season i switched to the ropeman 2 on my tether and find the reduced drop length to also be advantageous over a traditional prusick.
my switch was late season with only a hunt or two, so i cant comment on rope wear. using 8mm rope.
my switch was late season with only a hunt or two, so i cant comment on rope wear. using 8mm rope.
There’s also some good knots to use instead of the mechanical devices. I use a compact JRB ascender hitch on my tether. Holds well, and can self tend with a bit of effort. Seems like a lot of people jump to a ropeman or a duck because the basic prussic knot you see everywhere kind of sucks and they don’t know about other options.
I didn’t know about alternate friction hitches either at first but the devices were cost prohibitive to me so I did some research. I’m not knocking the mech stuff, as long as it’s used in spec I’m sure it’s a great solution if you don’t mind the added upfront cost versus a few dollars of accessory cord.
I didn’t know about alternate friction hitches either at first but the devices were cost prohibitive to me so I did some research. I’m not knocking the mech stuff, as long as it’s used in spec I’m sure it’s a great solution if you don’t mind the added upfront cost versus a few dollars of accessory cord.
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I mostly ask y’all cause I feel like they would be easier to adjust on a linemans since various tree sizes and needing to suck to the tree at times or be more away from the tree.
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The Duck is definitely faster and easier to adjust on my linemans.
I have an 11 mm linesman and use the ropeman 1. I make a lot of adjustments when setting sticks and platform. For the few adjustments I make to my tether while hunting I have been fine with a prusik and tender.
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Go hang from your saddle in the off season. You don't have to climb and try and perfect your movements/ how you think you want to move with what you have and see if it works for you. That's what I'm doing. My neighbors probably think I'm nuts, well I am so who cares
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Good point. I wouldn’t say I did that much last year so solid idea. I really want to figure out new sticks or kick the tires on one sticking.
I have used the Tethrd bridge with a Ropman & was quite happy with that. Then I gave the Buzzard roost offering try & to my suprise I actually prefer the simple 8mm Teufelberger Resc Tech Rope. Adjustment is made with an Amsteel Prusik.
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Now I hav grown to prefer to repel down from the tree at the time for decent. Madrock safeguard has been my preferred method for climbing & decent.
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Now I hav grown to prefer to repel down from the tree at the time for decent. Madrock safeguard has been my preferred method for climbing & decent.
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I have the ropeman 2. I bought it by mistake not knowing about the pointy teeth on the mechanicism that grabs the rope. I looked at it and thought it would do the same thing as others are saying and that it would tear up the ropes. I was right with the 11mm rope tether. It snagged and didn't feed well, mostly when I was trying to lengthen the tether.
I bought an 8 mm rappelling rope and tried it on that. It works very well. I've been using it for at least 2 seasons now with minimal wear on the 8mm tether. This includes probably 50 climbs if I had to guess.
The ropeman 1 works great on the 11 mm ropes. I wouldn't be scared to buy the "2" if you found a deal on one of them though.
Good luck
I bought an 8 mm rappelling rope and tried it on that. It works very well. I've been using it for at least 2 seasons now with minimal wear on the 8mm tether. This includes probably 50 climbs if I had to guess.
The ropeman 1 works great on the 11 mm ropes. I wouldn't be scared to buy the "2" if you found a deal on one of them though.
Good luck
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Ascenders are mostly intended for kernmantle. There's nothing wrong with the Ropeman 2, you're just using the wrong rope with it or using incorrect technique to remove it
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I mustn't have written that very well. What I meant to convey was my initial impression was that the ropeman 2 wouldn't work well but I found out the opposite.
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Good advice here. Any real difference with the 8mm ropes?
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