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OP, I've shot them both and they are both great bows. Personally I think the Hoyt draw cycle and valley is always better than a Mathews, including this year (especially at 80%). That's true of the AX 32 by a mile, and the AX2 32 by a margin.

Between the Lift 33 and the RX9U,... RX. The Lift is great but again, having shot both, I prefer the Hoyt. It points better, it has a way better valley, the draw feels more linear to me, and it seems more durable. But the Lift is a great bow also and has some advantages as well. You can't go wrong with either
 
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OP, I've shot them both and they are both great bows. Personally I think the Hoyt draw cycle and valley is always better than a Mathews, including this year (especially at 80%). That's true of the AX 32 by a mile, and the AX2 32 by a margin.

Between the Lift 33 and the RX9U,... RX all day long. The Lift is great but again, having shot both, I prefer the Hoyt. It points better, it has a way better valley, the draw feels more linear to me, and it seems more durable. But the Lift is a great bow also and has some advantages as well. You can't go wrong with either
I agree with you on the draw cycle of the AX 32. I wont be picking up an RX though. Great bow but I'm not a big carbon fan. Personally have to add a bit of weight to get feeling right shooting longer distances. I like the feel of the longer riser on the Lift X though compared to the ax 32. But, for being a 32 ata it didn't feel like a short bow. Of course all this is with out bars or sight on. I've preferred a longer riser/ata hunting bow for a while. I'll continue to overthink this matter! lol
 
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Going to come down personal preference.

in terms of bows I’m going towards Hoyt just cuz I don’t want to be a fan boy and I don’t shoot the Mathews system well.


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2 of the largest factors if one plans to keep this bow for a long time is warranty and CS.

Mathews is the only company that I’ve seen machine parts I’d they don’t have it in stock regardless of how old the bow is. So when you purchase the bow new you have a lifetime warranty they will replace the parts and if you accidentally messed something up you can still get parts.
You do you, man
 
Just went to my proshop last weekend to test drive the Lift x 33. What I thought would be my new bow. I’ve never shot flagship bows before but personally, the Mathew’s wasn’t at all what I was expecting. To me the draw stacked up and then fell hard as the came rolled over. The Hoyt on the other hand felt like it took a tick more strength but was generally smoother through the draw. I would say that the Matthew’s did seem to hold REALLY well. All personal preference for sure, but the Alpha AX2-32 will be my new bow this year. I also really liked the grip and valley on the Hoyt, both seemed to offer a little more forgiveness. Can’t go wrong with either one.
 
Just went to my proshop last weekend to test drive the Lift x 33. What I thought would be my new bow. I’ve never shot flagship bows before but personally, the Mathew’s wasn’t at all what I was expecting. To me the draw stacked up and then fell hard as the came rolled over. The Hoyt on the other hand felt like it took a tick more strength but was generally smoother through the draw. I would say that the Matthew’s did seem to hold REALLY well. All personal preference for sure, but the Alpha AX2-32 will be my new bow this year. I also really liked the grip and valley on the Hoyt, both seemed to offer a little more forgiveness. Can’t go wrong with either one.
100% agree. Hoyt has a better draw cycle and valley... even the 2025 bows. And it's been that way for several years now. Both are great bows but it's those feels that you live with day in and day out, not cam shimming.
 
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100% agree. Hoyt has a better draw cycle and valley... even the 2025 bows. And it's been that way for several years now. Both are great bows but it's those feels that you live with day in and day out, not cam shimming.
That’s so subjective though. And a lot depends on the let off settings especially on the back end. Possibly draw lengths too. For me, the lift is harder to pull but it’s more linear and subsequently smoother feeling. The RX9 Ultra pulls easier but has more ups and downs throughout the cycle.
 
That’s so subjective though. And a lot depends on the let off settings especially on the back end. Possibly draw lengths too. For me, the lift is harder to pull but it’s more linear and subsequently smoother feeling. The RX9 Ultra pulls easier but has more ups and downs throughout the cycle.
Totally agree, the tech I worked with said it best. When you get to that level all of them have different personalities, just likes us. Just gotta find what matches your needs and shooting style!
 
Totally agree, the tech I worked with said it best. When you get to that level all of them have different personalities, just likes us. Just gotta find what matches your needs and shooting style!
When they've got a short valley that likes to take off at 80%, that's one angry lady. I'll take the more laid back ones myself :LOL: I've shot every Mathews and Hoyt in the last 4 years... Hoyt's have better personalities 🤣

It's 100% subjective and partily dependent on how over bowed someone is
 
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Y’all seem to be echoing what I felt draw cycle wise on the lift x vs the AX 32. The lift x draw cycle with the 85 mods at 29” DL didn’t seem to have any stack to me or dump at the back wall. The hoyt had some stack and then a little dump. Nothing bad at all draw cycle wise. I prefer a little more holding weight. Might go and shoot them again but leaning more and more towards the Hoyt.
 
Y’all seem to be echoing what I felt draw cycle wise on the lift x vs the AX 32. The lift x draw cycle with the 85 mods at 29” DL didn’t seem to have any stack to me or dump at the back wall. The hoyt had some stack and then a little dump. Nothing bad at all draw cycle wise. I prefer a little more holding weight. Might go and shoot them again but leaning more and more towards the Hoyt.
I read a review on the new cams that if shot at the bottom of the mod the cycle will feel about like last years at top of mod. would like to compare #4 at top 30in vs #5 at bottom 30.25in. speed should be about same.
 
Man I’m a lift 33 owner and I absolutely love that bow but I’m curious about the AX 2 32. Came over here to read about the new Hoyts. Being a lefty sucks lol. So it’s hard for me go shoot one.
Hats off to everyone that has posted on this thread. Very good comments and no brand bashing! Stay classy my friends!👍
 
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Lefty here also. What did you like better?
I shot the lift x in left hand and alpha x 32 right hand. Personally I liked the Hoyt just a little bit better. The lift x didn’t have the typical Mathew’s draw (I’m used to a halon 32 6 draw cycle), felt pretty solid all the way through. The Hoyt’s draw cycle felt good and the back wall was solid for a cable stop. I liked the grip as well. No hand shock from either bow. Liked the Hoyt just a little better but if I had to I could go either Mathew’s or Hoyt. I like the longer feel of the lift x. Both solid.
 
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