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I've read topics on Nano's and Mckinney II's but haven't heard much on comparing the two.

I'd love to know who has tried one or both of the arrows on a recurve and which one they prefer and why.

If you were to go into a long distance competition today and had experience with Nano's or Mckinney's -- would you choose to use one of them or use an x10 or something else? Do you expect to see them in the next olympics or will it still be dominated by X10's?

Thanks!

David
 
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Although not a recurve the findings should be true for both,

Nano's- alittle smaller than an ACE and heavier for comparable spine sizes
McKII's- about the same size as an ACE but lighter and alot faster than Nano's of comparable spines.

Both seem to dynamicaly spine out 2 sizes stiffer than equal static spined
AC shafts

My wifes 3-04 (690) at 24" with 60gr point(262gr total) reacts the same as her McKII 725 at 25" with 100 gr point an is 247gr total.

I think that if you can get the distance with Nano's without pulling your sight in you most likely will go with them but if you need some alot of speed to acheive the same effect McKII will be the one's
 
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I think Sean is right on.

I shot my Mk ll's in Texas last week, and had no problem reaching 90 with my 36# Winnex @ 28.5 inches and 110 grain points. Even the fog didn't slow them down. lol If I shot around 40# I might give Nano's a try, but with my poundage the Mk ll's are great. They tune easy, and group great. They are way better than I am.

I saw several sets in Texas and a couple more shooters told me they have a set ordered.

I'll be posting a listing in the Classifieds on Saturday for a nice set of X-10 600's.
 
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Dave,

What size McKII's are you using.

I have 600's for my W&WNX bow at 42# and 650's for the Inno bow at 37#.
I finally got new 600's at 29" shafts and they shoot great. I am still trying to figure out the W&W inno bow. It actually shoots the 600's better than the Winex bow. The Winex is still more smooth to draw even at 42#. I need to stop tinkering and get som practice time in before June 2nd.


Stan
 
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Hi Stan,

I'm shooting 725's, and the tip is about 1/4 inch past the back of the bow. I think my Winnex are probably set at about 37 # . I'm using FF187's with a small wrap, Cartel Expert points, and Meta-Nocks. I've been thinking about going to a 100 grain point, which will make them a bit stiffer, but also faster.

The current set-up chronos at 215 fps while another machine clocks it at 217 fps. The best I ever got from my X-10s (600's) was 192 fps on those same two machines. I think all the machines out there vary a bit, but at least it gives a baseline to compare against.

As long as they are 10's I don't really care how fast they are.

Dave
 
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McKII

Just got a set of the 725s and at 34# winex, drawing 28.5", they chrono at 197fps, my ACE 720 chrono at 192 fps (both spin wings & pin nocks). Nano's on the way, will let you know what they are shooting when I get the info.
 
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Agree with Sean's assessment, and I've recently tried both.

Different philosophy really.

Both are great shafts, but the McKinney's fit a very special niche. Those that prefer light and fast will want them, while those that prefer heavier and smaller diameter will want the Nano.

Both have proven to be world class arrows of the first order.

Compete with ACE and X10? Certainly. There is no question about that. Dakota Sinclair finished 4th at the world team trials and actually out-shot everyone but Vic on the final day with McKinney II's. Nano's will prove to have similar success very soon I think.

Personally, I am using the Nano's right now because they are giving me better results even than the X10. I can't use the McKinney II's because they are not made in a length I can use for the spine I need - at least yet.

But I'm a small diameter/heavy arrow guy, so I prefer that avenue anyway. I have a very long draw and shoot 48#, so sight marks and speed are not an issue for me. For others, the McKinney II's will make more sense.

Nice to have some very viable (and less expensive) options these days for sure.

John.
 
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nanos

Shot the 830 nano yesterday, arrow nock groove to end of point is 29", small flex fletch, they chrono at 192fps, similiar to my ACE 720's. MKII are just a tad faster, yet both shot consistenly in the gold at same sight setting. They seem to fly extremely straight. This was indoor only, have not had time to go outside yet. Now I have three extremely nice sets of arrows for just under a meger $1000,(it's only money).:eek:
 
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ACE or MKII, hmmmm

Just got a dozen new ACE's 670's - still sealed. Is it worth trying to trade for Mk II's or keep the ACE's? (I mainly shoot at 18-30 meters but want to try longer range.)

What spine would you recommend for MkII? I am guessing according to the charts I am a 650? 1" past the rest is 27 1/4", 28" draw, 32# limb , but would like to move soon to #38... and eventually low 40's.

Thanks!
 
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Montana,

The ACE is still a great arrow (as is the X10). Make no mistake about that. I used ACE's in '04, along with several other Olympians.

The advantage (only if you need it) of the McKinney is the extremely light weight. So if you are struggling to reach your longest distance at all, the McKinney will get you there better than any other arrow.

Also, you need to look two full sizes weaker in spine for a McKinney or Nano than you would normally use with an ACE or X10. So if you use 670 ACE's now, then probably something around a 750 McKinney will work best for you.

John.
 
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Targetbutt said:
I think I saw the price for those MKII's once and they were about $270 or so. So around $20-$30 more than ACE's. Perhaps someone who has a set can confirm.
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Yeah, around there. They can use A/C/E components too so that's one thing in their favour. Not too sure about whether the shorter time they spend in the air will help when there's a wind blowing though.

Guess you can't win them all. :sad:
 
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