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You are correct. The Mathews longbows are COPIES of Earl's SKY bows, i'm not sure about the recurve. I've seen both and quite frankly, Earl's shot better ;). The price is right up there too. :pukey:

Always nice to see a stickbow's lwngth referred to as axle to axle :confused:

Viper1 out.
 
Supposedly Mathew's bought the factory and all the tools from Earls wife. Guess that's not worth a hill of beans when the right mojo doesn't go into the making of them. Sky recurves still has a web page up and running.
 
As mentioned earlier Mathews bought Sky several years ago. They came out with a recurve and a longbow(the custom cases cost half as much as the bow). I have shot the recurve and found it to be nothing special. They also are coming out with an Olympic riser. Of course at the rate they are going with it none of us will still be around when it hits the shelves. I was told by the man who run their recurve program that it will be at least two more years before the riser is developed. Funny, Vic Wunderle shot one in the last Olympics 4 years ago. Just how long does it take???
 
WOW Mathews bashng on a trad forum

I know Matt makes Guitars and if his trad bows end up with as good workmanshiip I will be proud to have one.

would like to have one just so guys could bash me

Rob

Oh and I had 2 of the older Sky longbows, nothing special,sold both
 
Matthews saw $$$ in the trad market. If the classic/traditional market had not experienced a re-surgance, they would not have given it a second thought.

Bear pretty much did the same thing.

Martin/Howatt was one of the few who continued to build trad. bows when stickbows weren't cool.
 
I know Matt makes Guitars and if his trad bows end up with as good workmanshiip I will be proud to have one.

would like to have one just so guys could bash me

Rob

Oh and I had 2 of the older Sky longbows, nothing special,sold both
Umm, excuse me, but who was "bashing?" No one did anything other than make a comment about the Hoyt versions being better
 
A mathews dealer in this area had an open house 2 years ago and they
had 1 recurve and 2 longbows by mathews.
Didn't try the recurve but lower priced longbow ( $699. )
had lots of handshock, the other one ( 999. ) wasn't bad.
 
A mathews dealer in this area had an open house 2 years ago and they
had 1 recurve and 2 longbows by mathews.
Didn't try the recurve but lower priced longbow ( $699. )
had lots of handshock, the other one ( 999. ) wasn't bad.
Hmm...don't know about Matthews traditional line, but it seems like I'm getting the impression that much better performance can be gotten from other bowyers/manufacturers and for a much more reasonable price...
 
Hmm...don't know about Matthews traditional line, but it seems like I'm getting the impression that much better performance can be gotten from other bowyers/manufacturers and for a much more reasonable price...
Sounds like a bash to me, forming an opinion on the basis of one post?

Whole line of posts is neg. I think we should support ANY manufacturer that will take the time AND money to produce a trad bow. They can get nothing but better with time. And we all complain about Hoyt's bad customer service with Oly bows(at least I do ) when they won't handle bad Liimbs, Have risors that won't hold the limbs in place, take 6+ months to deliver product...Should I go on?
Tone of posts was neg and if you can't see it ....oh well:confused:
 
Sounds like a bash to me, forming an opinion on the basis of one post?

Whole line of posts is neg. I think we should support ANY manufacturer that will take the time AND money to produce a trad bow. They can get nothing but better with time. And we all complain about Hoyt's bad customer service with Oly bows(at least I do ) when they won't handle bad Liimbs, Have risors that won't hold the limbs in place, take 6+ months to deliver product...Should I go on?
Tone of posts was neg and if you can't see it ....oh well:confused:
Now before I respond to your comments, let me offer a disclaimer: I am not continuing this discussion with the intention of being anal-retentive, nor am I simply attempting to prove myself as being "right", nor am I merely arguing semantics.

Now with that being said, let me go back to what I wrote. I specifically stated that "I am getting the impression..." I cannot make any definitive statements, especially considering the fact that I have never shot a Matthews traditional offering, but had I done so, I would be in a better position to be able to at least say "It is my opinion that Matthews tradtional bows are _______ ." I can take what someone else says into consideration, but there still exists the possibility that if I were to shoot a Matthews, I might find it to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, so as far as "bashing" coming from my mouth or my considering anything anyone else has posted as being "bashing"...I really don't see the logic behind it. Merely subjective opinion.

Now as far as the issue of your comment stating that "we should support ANY manufacturer that will take the time AND money to produce a trad bow" is concerned...well, let me answer your question with a question. Do you think that any bowyer/manufacturer that is producing a product that

A. Performs poorly

B. Performs well, yet not as well as other products that can be gotten at a lower price

C. Is not offering custom options that other bowyers/manufacturers are offering while also offering them at a lower price

automatically deserves our support? I'm just curious as to the underlying meaning of your comment. And as far them only getting better with time goes...well...I'm strongly inclined to believe that most people are probably going to go with the bowyer/manufacturer that is already offering something better...in the present.
 
I'm happy to see a big name in the compound world offer bows because it will most likely bring more shooters over to this side of the sport, simply due to the name.

I seriously doubt Matthews is getting into this side of the sport to loose money--business is business.

I shot one or two of the deflex/reflex longbows. I've shot more expensive bows that (IMO) didn't shoot as good, and cheaper bows that (IMO) shot better. You can spend a lot more or a lot less, and you can get a better or worse shooter either way.

I doubt they will give the custom bowyers much if any competition--but again, should bring some over from the "other" side of the sport just because of name recognition.

I don't see me owning one, but I'm happy for them.

Chad
 
Wow did I touch a nerve!

Ok, got some of the response i expected.

First of all,First post accused them of JUmping on the band wagon, very positive yeah?

Then Viper made a point that they were copies of the old Sky. I don't think so I had the old sky's and was not impressed. But OK

Then buying out a failing company(not due to fault, don't put words in my mouth) is not worth a hill of beans

Now we confirm buying Sky, but nothing special and kick them for slow R&D( still better than Hoyt's delivery times:embara:)

I stated I believed quality would be there, Having one for everyone to bash me was aimed at the compound crowd(had to be there 5 yrs ago when I had first around here)

And so we get to bashing me for making a point.
product quality will decide if sales continue,..I think Black Widows are overpriced,Most Hoyts are too. MY OPINION

Lbr put it more politically correct than I, Thank you, I was attacking noone just pointing out that as long as Mathews is going to try to support our chioce of bow, We could give them a chance to improve before we cut them down. The market place will decide if they stay, get a good bow or get out of the line. I hope for our sake they succeed so other manufactor's have competition

As most of you can guess I have no love for Hoyt, Mainly because of poor customer service, My right. But I will not suggest they get out of business because of it ! I would hope they can improve and win me over again.

Sorry some don't understand tongue in cheek, I will rein it in.

Rob
 
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I did also hear that Matthews was going to start an oil refining business and open up a chain of gas stations - Just kidding Rob

I think I started a good one here

Chad - I'm still thinking about that Check-Mate (falcon-hunter-hunter-falcon)
 
LBR made a good point in getting more compound shooters to give trad a try, but i dont think ill ever own the mathews. nothing against them, but i feel their prices are a bit much, there are some great longbows for much much less $$$
 
I think the problem with the Mathews sticks, is the price. If I'm not mistaken, aren't they in the $600-700 range? Most other big name companies have "starter" bows at "starter" prices. If I was tempted to shoot on the other side of the fence, I wouldn't want to drop that kind of money to try something. They are nice looking bow though.
 
Sounds like a bash to me, forming an opinion on the basis of one post?

Whole line of posts is neg. I think we should support ANY manufacturer that will take the time AND money to produce a trad bow. They can get nothing but better with time. And we all complain about Hoyt's bad customer service with Oly bows(at least I do ) when they won't handle bad Liimbs, Have risors that won't hold the limbs in place, take 6+ months to deliver product...Should I go on?
Tone of posts was neg and if you can't see it ....oh well:confused:
Ok,you want a bash,no problem.
Their as much as 3 times the price of another cheap knock off of the same bow (Samick) but they don't perform as well.
I shoot the Samick and I've shot the Mathews.
The Samick is a better bow,and not just on price either.
Where I live the Mathews is over $1200,the Samick is $380,,,
Work it out.
 
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