I have a 12" posten stabilizer in black for sale for $35tyd. It is not perfect it has a couple of paint dings, but not too bad. Also started out with a camo insert. I spent way too many hours peeling the sticker off the inside rod through the holes. If you stick your nose on thing and look down in the tube (Why?) you might be able to see remnants of the sticker inside of it. To my knowledge nobody has ever noticed, and the carbon fiber insert looks sweet without the silly camo tape that was on it. Great stab for a great price. Just trying something different on the new bow.