The GT Kinetic Kaos also comes in 200, but only 30 inches long. I need longer than that because I have a 32 inch draw length.

My measured draw right now on my PSE is 32 7/8" and I shoot 30" carbon to carbon arrows.

 

I shoot 30 for target. But for hunting I want my broadheads out in front of my riser. I need at least 31.5 for that

 

I shoot the original Gold Tip Kinetic 200 and from the throat of the nock to the outsert it measures 31.

 

https://www.siriusarchery.com/collections/shafts/products/vulcan-0-245-id

 

I like the specs on both of those arrows, so ordered a 3-pack of each to try. The Vulcan's for 3D and the Apollo's for everything else.

 

Grizzlystik Momentum .170’s. What are your specs and how heavy are you trying to go?

 

The Sirius archery Vulcans are what my brother and I both use in a 200 spine. We both have ours cut 30in carbon to carbon, with 200gn Ethics Archery inserts, 150gn single bevel 2 blade broad heads or 150gn field tips depending on what were shooting. Total arrow weight is with nocks and fletching is around 760gn, chronoed at 251fps and 107.9ft lbs of kinetic energy through a custom 80lb Bear Kuma 30. We absolutely love these arrows for everything from target shooting to hunting. Hope you enjoy them as much as we have.

 

Your setups are pretty much what I am looking to do. The main difference being that with my DL I need the arrows at least 31.5 carbon to carbon. The Sirius arrows look great. Unfortunately I'm from Canada, which means that with shipping and exchange rate, these would come out to like $40 Canadian per raw shaft. And that's if I don't get hit by customs at the border. Add on the inserts and broadheads and that makes for some pretty spendy arrows :tongue:

Thats's why I'm trying to figure out how much stuff I can get locally, or at least without crossing the border.

What brand/model of broadheads are you using? I'm looking to try a single bevel as well

 

Have you looked at the PSE Radial x weaves?

 

Thanks for the tip. I had forgotten that PSE made arrows. Unfortunately, I was just on their website and they don't seem to make any under 300 spine

 

I shoot the 200 spine spartans. They have been great.

 

Are you using them with heavy FOC or with more of a standard type setup?

 

I have a 32.5 DL at 60lbs. Because of my DL, in order to get the broadhead out in front of the riser I need to use my arrows full length. I'm want to try an Ashby setup so I need at least 550 grains total and at least 20% FOC. This isn't easy to do with such a long arrow. With 250 I can't get enough weight up front and with 150 I would probably have to go well over 1000 grains total weight to get it to spine out properly. I'd rather not go that heavy.

With a 200 spine I should fall somewhere between 700 and 800 grains and be somehere between 20% and 24% FOC depending on how much tip weight they work best with.

I looked at the Grizzlystiks. The problem being that I'm from Canada, so 100USD for 6 shafts, plus whatever they charge for "international" shipping, plus the exchange rate turns those into like 30$ Canadian a piece. And that is before components and broadheads. So I'm trying to figure out what I can use locally to get where I'm trying to be.

I looked into the Sirius arrows someone else recommended. Those look good too, but the same problem. Shipping and exchange rate bites me in the ass :tongue:

 

Black Eagle X-Impact is perfect for what your looking for. Pair them up with Ethics Archery stainless outsert/Inserts and you can get almost all the FOC you want.

I have a 32” DL w/ 74lb bow & a 31” shaft for my arrow builds.

https://www.blackeaglearrows.com/X-...ows.com/X-Impact-Micro-Diameter-Carbon-Target-Arrow-Shafts-p/ximpact-shafts.htm


https://ethicsarchery.com/products/ethics-archery-165-adjustable-outsert-system-255-sleeve

I seen your across the border so I know these will cost you more but they are definitely worth it. Being built like Sasquatch I learned a long time ago anything I do that actually will fit me and I can enjoy will cost me a lot more than a normal size human.

 

Thanks man

I've accepted the fact that I'm going to have to order in the inserts and broadheads. But if I can at least get the shafts here it helps. I have a Black Eagle dealer not too far away. I'll check out the X-Impacts

 

What exactly are you wanting to hunt with this heavy FOC setup?

I love to tinker and experiment with stuff too, but you have to accept that that costs more money. And then in the end you'll most likely realize that it was all just a waste of time and money and go back to what was working before.:wink:

 

Agreed, but I've been reading the Ashby stuff and it has me curious. And once I get curious about something I just have to find some way to scratch that itch.

I plan to use it on black bear and moose. The bear we have here are pretty small and they are a fairly soft target, so definitely overkill for those. But moose are a pretty darn tough animal. Still probably overkill. But tinkering is part of the fun.

 

Black Eagle X Impact 200 spine Very thick walled micro arrows. Since they are micro the are a little lighter than the spartan and GT's. You will have an easier time building FOC with them.