Plenty of arrow if tuned correctly, the right broadhead, and decent speed. My compound arrows are usually 350-375 grains (always have shot 5 grains per pound at 27” draw) with arrow speeds from 295-325 fps. I’ve ALWAYS had pass throughs on deer. I would not be shooting a trypan though with that setup, I’d be concerned about penetration. I always prefer a coc or trocar tip bh.

 

I wouldn't trust a mechanical with your set up. If you want to use mechanical BHs, I'd suggest going with a heavier arrow.

With your set up, I'd recommend a Cut on Contact type head.

 

question regarding this what arrow weight would you be comfortable shooting a mechanical?

 

So for years I have shot 60-70#, 30" any where from 385-410 grn. Muzzy 100-130 grn razor sharp! Whitetail in VA, Hogs in TN and GA. I haven't had a problem. However with all the Ashby education on this great website. I'm going to shoot 535 grn this year. So most all of my shots have been within 25 yards, so I'm not worried about the trajectory.

I would recommend look you Ranch Fairy on YouTube, and look up his archery stuff. If your bow is tuned to you and you are having perfect arrow flight, and your Heads are Razor sharp you "should be fine". However going heavier and Sharp COC or trocar heads is a win win in my opinion.

Good luck.

 

What coc heads yall using?

 

Magnus Black Hornet 125. I love them and they come from a great company.

 

Enough, probably, Ideal no!

I prefer a minimum of 400 grains.

I also like a 1.5 inch 2 blade mechanical for lower lbs. Sevr 1.5.

 

No way would I use a wide mechanical on a light weight arrow like that. But that's just me. I'd up the weight by at least 60 to 100 grains.

 

I'm on this wagon as well....

with what you have now....realistically you are 50/50 on seeing a deer running away with half your arrow hanging out....or more. If you'd get different heads. I just simply can't jump on that rage bandwagon, there is no need for a large cutting diameter. My opinion is, if you are shooting bigger heads to make up for a bad shot, you are already going into the woods with less than ideal confidence in your abilities. you can put down a deer, any deer with a 1 inch sonic if you get two lungs or heart. Single lung Big diameter cuts don't mean faster recovery. I've been on several Rage tracking jobs and contrary to popular belief, not every hit is like throwing an axe through them. Deer do go un-recovered with wide cuts. I also know a guy with a hound, he's seen plenty Rage hit deer go a LONG way. most times the dog pushes them to expiration.

go with confidence, go with an fixed head at that weight arrow. that would be cheaper than buying new arrows. IMO, you probably don't have an arrow properly spined to add 100 more grains up front. Cheapest option is to buy a COC head. I would go with a lesser angled head as well. the magnus hornets never proved that theory correct for me ( i'm at 600 TAW), but I don't like the greater blade angle hornet for you. magnus stinger or buzz cut would be a better option IMO. the Buzz cut or stinger don't look cool or bad azz, but they work. there are many longer ferruled, lesser blade angle heads on the market, pick one.

Also, think of this way....how do the traditional archers kill deer and get good penetration? in your case, my recommendation is a longer head, lesser blade angle. The trad guy is also throwing logs, but that will cost you more money.

 

Is your arrow 365 without a broadhead? If it is your will be fine once you add 100 GR or more in rage to the front. If 365 is the total weight with broadhead, you will want either more weight or a smaller head.

 

That's with 100gr field point. My arrows are 27 inches I believe. 400 spine. I could up to 125 gr broadheads. That's gets me to 390

 

I used 365gr arrow for years when I hunted farmland whitetails, never had a penetration issue, but I used a 1.5" cut mech, I now hunt a big forest area and my shots are generally under 25 yards so I shoot a fmj which is moderately heavier

 

365 to light 465 would be much better COC must.

 

You are gonna get answers all over the place. I'm a heavier arrow, good foc, fixed blade guy. Has served me better when things don't go perfect. Apparently there are lots of people the go super light with large mechanicals and never have an issue. I recommend doing some of your own testing. Good luck!

 

I don't have the arrows yet. But was planning on gold tip hunters. Currently have 400 spine that 7.5 gr per in. Weighed with 100 gr field point was right at 350 gr total.

 

Any reason why you've settled on GT Hunters?

 

:happy1: I'm on this one.

 

this thread will die....he asked, many echoed the same thing. now he asks about hybrid heads.

 

The GT Hunters will work just fine.
My setup is similar to yours
I'd either use a small expandable, my choice, Grim Reaper 1 3/8" Razorcut
Or, like has been said, go to a fixed blade like the Stingers, Montec, Grim Reaper Hades, etc, etc, etc

 

ty sir, I'll check those out!

 

Personally I would prefer to be at 400-415 gr taw with those specs and stay away from a mechanical unless you went with a smaller cut dia mech a good sharp fixed blade will be a lot better option for you

 

Slap a QAD Exodus on the end and be done with it.

 

last deer i killed was with an arrow weighing approx 350 grains with a fixed broadhead, DW was 60 pounds with a DL of 26 inches, complete pass through. given it was at 13 yards but i plan on using close to the same set up this year

 

Yes it's enough. It's not what I'd personally shoot if I was using expandables but it's enough. I like wasp broadheads.

 

at your arrow weight and poundage no

fixed blade exodus 365 grains 60#you are fine

bump that arrow weight to 450 and mechanical

i am shooting 150 grain trypans this year on a 550 grain arrow but i am also shooting 83#

 

I would say absolutely [emoji817] if it’s in the kill zones. If it’s a bad shot then it’s a toss up and a heavier arrow would be better. Honestly, you are fine I really think so.


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It's enough, but I wouldn't be afraid to go heavier. Just like everybody else is saying, coc head would benefit you.

 

I'd say 70% of my deer were taken with that setup, and most of those were 3 blade spitfires and Naps ,within + or- 20grn of that , some more some less, and a 28in dl

 

I killed 5 deer last year with a 364 grain and a Rage Hypo. Busted through the offside leg of one. I was shooting 70 pounds at around 315fps, though.

 

what is your draw length. this is important information when telling people what you can do.

 

Deer your ok don’t shoot big hogs with that I live in south ga we’re infested with hogs I was shooting 50 a year easy and I keep a heavy arrow for hogs fixed blade and shoot for lungs if there over 120 they develop a shield I had a 525 only go 6 inches with a Montec I shoot deer with a megameat 100 grain rip xv 26 inches 420 total 80lb dw 28dl I’ve busted shoulder bone I don’t try to but I believe in small and micro diameter arrow stiff as u can get to tune proper

 

If you want to use mechanical BHs, I'd suggest going with a heavier arrow.

 

How good of a shot are you and how well do you handle pressure situations?

 

That is the best question to ask if can’t shoot a 4 inch spot most of your shots your either shooting to far are the best case is to use a shaft that has a light gpi and put most of your wait up front