the big issue with a nice 3d target of a deer for example is there is only one kill shot so after you pound it for a while it is going to be a dead spot that is shot out.

I personally had a glen del rut buck and loved it, I replaced the core many times and the deer held up to many winters out in the back yard range. I actually learned to stuff old t-shirts into the shot up area and I cut out a new piece of cardboard and drew asa scoring rings on the cardboard and attached it. This worked freaking awesome.

I also mounted a small bag target behind the buck target to assist stopping arrows, I did this before I learned to stuff the shot up spot with t shirts.

 

Now, the other thing I learned to do is I used 4 fence posts and some 2x12's to make a belt high shelf and I bought a couple block targets and I ratchet strapped them to the shelf. OMG, that was awesome because I could pull arrows without bending over or holding the target.

Secondly, I learned to take all my shots but one at the two block targets and then only shoot one arrow at the 3d buck target. This allowed me a awesome kill shot on it without just bashing it with all 4 or 5 arrows per trip.

 

Honestly though, the two block targets mounted on the shelf were so awesome I stopped using my buck target.

 

My favorite targets ever are my old block targets, I don't like fresh ones. Once my block targets get shot up really good where they no longer really stop arrows is when they get awesome, I put a cheap bag target behind them and keep those bag targets stuffed with t shirts and my block holds my cardboard cut outs of asa scoring rings perfectly because of the flat face and the block layering also allows my arrows to go in perfectly straight and scrubs off some speed but the bag stops it. I get easy 2 finger pulls from this setup and it is by far the best I have ever used.

Right now I am shooting some new block targets I got early last year and they are still going strong so I am kind of waiting for them to start failing so they can turn into awesome ones.

 

My favorite targets ever are my old block targets, I don't like fresh ones. Once my block targets get shot up really good where they no longer really stop arrows is when they get awesome, I put a cheap bag target behind them and keep those bag targets stuffed with t shirts and my block holds my cardboard cut outs of asa scoring rings perfectly because of the flat face and the block layering also allows my arrows to go in perfectly straight and scrubs off some speed but the bag stops it. I get easy 2 finger pulls from this setup and it is by far the best I have ever used.

Right now I am shooting some new block targets I got early last year and they are still going strong so I am kind of waiting for them to start failing so they can turn into awesome ones.

I will be using them for myself but also for my daughter that just got her first bow this year. Once she gets used to shooting form and releasing correctly I want her to have an actual target to shoot at since she hasn’t ever shot anything at an animal. Kids are more visual and I think it’ll really help her to aim at the correct spots on something with the same or similar shape.

What about the deer target that has the block you can flip around? I believe it has four sides that can be used. Great info. Thanks for the reply.


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The cream of the crop are the Rinehart and Mckenzie 3Ds that have replacement centers. Like Padgett noted, you shoot one in the same spot and it's going fail sooner than you think. The good thing is, the replacement center isn't as expensive as a whole target or targets of old where you actually got the forward half of the 3D minus the head (mucho dollars). Replacement centers of course come in different sizes and corresponding prices.

The 3D targets are not like true game animals. It quartering away the 10 ring should be farther back. If a down hill shot then the 10 ring should be higher - Arrow crisscrossing the vitals - arrow places through the upper part of the facing lung and lower part of far side lung. Just the opposite of a up hill shot - lower facing lung, upper far side lung.

3D targets do not like being left outside year round - unless maybe covered. I've a old Mckenzie Ram in the back yard that's been there for years - it's harder than wood. It was a shot out target I got cheap at a club clean out and it looks good in the back yard - birds bored a hole in the neck and raise babies there every year. The center core, far different than other 3Ds, will still stop a arrow - must be 15 years old.

Rineharts with heavy heads don't like sun/heat. The head weighs so much it pulls down of the locking lug and then you have a big gap - left in the shade it might hold up better.

For kids the Delta Back Yard buck may suffice - comes with a extra center (all for $100 or so). The Glendale would be better.

 

Same as Sonny and DQ.....my 3D targets are pre-season and in-season practice and not year around. Get a Morrell Outdoor Range or contact Jim and Third Hand for one of his empty bag skins, then fill with old clothing sans buttons or zippers. Pound away at that for your tuning and regular form work, saving the 3D for specific hunting or competition practice. I've had a wide variety over the years and like Rinehart.

 

if its for 3D practice I suggest a bulldog flat face target and some pin on faces like...... Maple Leaf S3DA Indoor Target Face

 

The main players for 3D targets are Rinehart and Delta McKenzie. These are what you will see at IBO (Rinehart) and ASA (McKenzie) sanctioned shoots. Both manufacturers have high end competition series targets as well as "backyard" targets that are less expensive. The backyard ones usually have a cheaper foam that doesn't heal up as well; and generally don't have a replacement core. This type of foam tends to harden with time and outdoor exposure to the sun. Having shot both types extensively; here's what i like/dislike about each:

McKenzie (Pros):

• overall appearance is more lifelike and more detailed.
• deer targets are more true to real life size than Rineharts.
• smaller pieces are easier/cheaper to ship.

McKenzie (Cons):

• After acquisition by Delta; the targets seem cheaply made; cheaper foam.
• Finish is painted; when it gets shot up targets are brown (sucks for white goat in particular).
• Most targets now have separate hard plastic legs...i hate this; it wrecks arrows when hit and they don't stay together well.
• Targets are usually 3 pieces put together with dovetail connections...they tend to fall apart and have large gaps, especially large ones.
• Targets harden much quicker than Rineharts; foam becomes brittle and concrete like, and things like ears, tails, etc. break off.

Rinehart (Pros):

• The foam is superior and stays pliable much, much longer; the targets in general last much, much longer (saves $$$).
• The large targets are one piece; ultimate durability; no dovetails to break or pull apart.
• Almost all have replacement cores, even the small targets.
• The color of the foam for most targets matches the paint; so your white goat will still be white after its all shot up.

Rinehart (Cons):

• Many targets must be shipped freight because they are one piece ($$$)
• Deer targets seem very small with exception of one or two; like the big muley.
• Appearance of many is not as detailed nor lifelike; cartoonish looking.
• Deer target front legs are attached too far back; looks terrible.
• The turkeys are brown; awful looking.

In general; there are specific targets that i like from each. For McKenzie, i like the large deer (without the plastic legs); the strutting turkey (has scoring rings all 4 sides and is actually black); the bedded buck (nice looking and no legs (plastic); the cougar (no flimsy legs), and the pigs/boars are ok also. For any larger target; i'm going Rinehart all day long...buffalo, moose, elk, caribou, white goat, large black bear, bedded elk, etc. The large rineharts are generally the nicer looking ones in the lineup as well. The rinehart cats are nice looking also; leopard, cougar, puma. Can't stand the Rinehart deer or turkeys; but in general the Rineharts are a better target IMO. Our club uses both; we get 4-5 years out of the McKenzies and 10+ out of the Rineharts. Hope this helps.

 

The main players for 3D targets are Rinehart and Delta McKenzie. These are what you will see at IBO (Rinehart) and ASA (McKenzie) sanctioned shoots. Both manufacturers have high end competition series targets as well as "backyard" targets that are less expensive. The backyard ones usually have a cheaper foam that doesn't heal up as well; and generally don't have a replacement core. This type of foam tends to harden will time and outdoor exposure to the sun. Having shot both types extensively; here's what i like/dislike about each:

McKenzie (Pros):

• overall appearance is more lifelike and more detailed.
• deer targets are more true to real life size than Rineharts.
• smaller pieces are easier/cheaper to ship.

McKenzie (Cons):

• After acquisition by Delta; the targets seem cheaply made; cheaper foam.
• Finish is painted; when it gets shot up targets are brown (sucks for white goat in particular).
• Most targets now have separate hard plastic legs...i hate this; it wrecks arrows when hit and they don't stay together well.
• Targets are usually 3 pieces put together with dovetail connections...they tend to fall apart and have large gaps, especially large ones.
• Targets harden much quicker than Rineharts; foam becomes brittle and concrete like, and things like ears, tails, etc. break off.

Rinehart (Pros):

• The foam is superior and stays pliable much, much longer; the targets in general last much, much longer (saves $$$).
• The large targets are one piece; ultimately durability; no dovetails to break or pull apart.
• Almost all have replacement cores, even the small targets.
• The color of the foam for most targets matches the paint; so your white goat will still be white after its all shot up.

Rinehart (Cons):

• Many targets must be shipped freight because they are one piece ($$$)
• Deer targets seem very small with exception of one or two; like the big muley.
• Appearance of many is not as detailed nor lifelike; cartoonish looking.
• Deer target front legs are attached too far back; looks terrible.
• The turkeys are brown; awful looking.

In general; there are specific targets that i like from each. For McKenzie, i like the large deer (without the plastic legs); the strutting turkey (has scoring rings all 4 sides and is actually black); the bedded buck (nice looking and no legs (plastic); the cougar (no flimsy legs), and the pigs/boars are ok also. For any larger target; i'm going Rinehart all day long...buffalo, moose, elk, caribou, white goat, large black bear, bedded elk, etc. The large rineharts are generally the nicer looking ones in the lineup as well. The rinehart cats are nice looking also; leopard, cougar, puma. Can't stand the Rinehart deer or turkeys; but in general the Rineharts are a better target IMO. Hope this helps.

Thank you sir. Now I have some options to look into.


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