Do you know the accmos customer service email or even their website is impossible for me to find it...I would gladly submit my experience and pics to them to see what would it be. It's the shafts or it's my tunning. I am not a perfect tuner and just into the recurve Olympic for almost two years, being in archery since 2003 and having a hiatus of 11 years until 2023. So I would really appreciate any help. I am not pretending to diss anyone or any brand I was super happy with my accmos at the beginning then happens 1 and and another and another, it is weird. Id like to get to the bottom of it, because I will not shoot those accmos anymore and I will switch to my Pandarus, that are already cut and prepped. ....and if is me I don't want to mess those arrows

 

I have only messaged them through Ali, or Amazon. Still, they have been very responsive in every case, and when I have had technical questions they have had their shop techs give me detailed answers. They are in China, so It's usually been a day between sending a message, and receiving a reply.

 

You meant the accmos store in AliExpress, unfortunately for me hose weren through that store I bought it from another store, anyway I will try to message them through both...thanks

 

Yes, the Accmos store on Aliexpress.

 

I sent Accmos a message yesterday, and received a reply today. They couldn't open the link to this thread, and asked for a screenshot. I replied that the OP was contacting them, and thanked them for their response as usual.

Hopefully the OP will get this sorted, and we can get a better idea of what is happening.

Jerry

 

Actually, I think they should be able to a link to this thread but some of the photos or videos may not be viewable. Let me do a quick test...

 

Pictures look to be viewable without logging in:

 

Pictures look to be viewable without logging in:

I have had this happen in the past. I'm not sure. Anyway it is better that the OP discusses this with them. They may have more specific questions that haven't been answered here.

 

no problem I can chat with them, let me know how can I do that? is there a specific store in Aliexpress for them? if so would you mind to share the link? i wrote to some store called the accmos store but can't be 100% sure its them.

 

I have always use "Accmos Archery Store" on Aliexpress. I have had the same quality of customer service from the "accmos professional archery" store on Amazon.

 

Some clubs here use the cheap accmos arrows (0.009/0.006) as “club arrows” for newbies and visitors, for the obvious reasons.
No special issues.

 

Is there any news?

 

Yep accmos says or at the accmos store in AliExpress that those are arrows for practice, they are cheap (cost me $24 the dozen of shafts) and therefore they don't have any spine info, also for the price we should not expect any kind of spine chart, durability or quality. That is what they said. And the other guy, the reseller is likely pinning that on me and they will be only refund me half of the arrows I lost, when I started there were only four, now they are five. I am so not shooting those arrows anymore. Anyway that is what they say . Btw the reseller idea of a refund is $4 for everything....very disappointed in accmos. For now on I will only relay in name brands like Pandarus, skylon, Easton, or the ones that are on sale on Lancaster archery .

 

Even if they were just practice arrows, it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that break happened at that location. I check all my arrows before a shooting session and after long rest breaks, by doing the flex test, a quick spin test. Where I hold my arrows, I wouldn't have found that weak spot ahead of time because it would have been in the middle of my palm.

 

I'm curious about which arrows you have. I do remember that they had some arrows (I think glass) that were not spine rated, but I never considered them.

FYI, there has been speculation for years now that Skylon arrows are made by Accmos. Also, I don't know if I've ever seen Pandarus being mentioned as a "name brand" in the same sentence as Easton.

 

Well Pandarus is not Easton is that what you meant, but it has good reviews from Steven from Australia, the guys from archery supplies in YouTube, also I've seen some of them with some archers on my club and they like it, I've seen some 3.2 I think is the ice point, I have the Pandarus infinity 4.2 mm 700 spine and I was shooting them this weekend and everything was ok . About what kind of accmos is, this is the link so you can see .
I just found this on AliExpress:
$38.19 | 12pcs ID4.2mm 100% Pure Carbon Arrow shaft Gold Logo Spine250-1000 Arrow Tube Archery DIY

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKrnwyj

 

They are only refunding you for half the arrows? The front half or the back half?

 

Are you flexing the arrows to test them before the shot? how much wear and tear have these gone through before failures?

 

Well I did with the Pandarus, the new ones not the accmos. Forgive my ignorance in that aspect. Do I have to do it , the flex test, before every shot or just before the start, I am asking because I usually do 100 to 120 shots on the 3 hours I usually spend at the club Sundays mostly.

 

Riser contact sounds plausible.

Also, goods out of China should probably be bought from the factory store. Anytime they are being sold by a third party, there is a possibility that the product sold came out the back door of the factory. Sometimes it's an employee skimming product to sell on the side, other times it's product that didn't pass QC being smuggled out. Not saying that's what happened here, but Accmos arrows have a pretty good reputation from the shooters and hunters over at TradTalk, and I think most of them buy from the factory store on Aliexpress.

 

Riser contact sounds plausible.

Also, goods out of China should probably be bought from the factory store. Anytime they are being sold by a third party, there is a possibility that the product sold came out the back door of the factory. Sometimes it's an employee skimming product to sell on the side, other times it's product that didn't pass QC being smuggled out. Not saying that's what happened here, but Accmos arrows have a pretty good reputation from the shooters and hunters over at TradTalk, and I think most of them buy from the factory store on Aliexpress.

You are right but the factory store is the one that told me about since they are cheap, they have not spine info or they are expected to fail, or at least that is what they told me at the chat....anyway I won't shoot those any longer and I will retune the bow and new arrows based on the info that I got from the Easton office, also watching the kaminsky YouTube series on tuning...again to see what I could have done bad or what I could do better than before

 

There is a lot wrong with this article. From the tune of the bow/ its poundage/ arrow spine ect ect. The Chinese ship arrows in boxes that are only an inch or two longer than the arrow and the attitude of some workers and the handling of customers stock leaves much to be desired across all sorts of products. I would not be surprised if they suffered a heavy end on blow during shipping, and last but not least a poor grade of carbon slipping thru QC.

 

My experience over the past several years is that arrows that break in the same place is due to being hit on the side. It doesn't take much for an arrow to break if it has been hit by a car door accidentally or banged against something while in the quiver such as a door way. It takes about 40 pounds of side pressure to cause this. I would say that unfortunately the individual had a slight mishap and caused this. There are too many comments made to suggest that the arrows are bad overall. This also could have happened during shipping but not sure if the box showed it. Just my opinion.

 

I've been taught that the correct way to pull out the arrow is to have on hand flat on the target face -- if possible the arrow between the V of the thumb and forefinger. With the other hand, grip the arrow shaft as close to the target face a possible. Make sure nobody is behind you before pulling. Pulling by near the vanes is never recommended.

 

FWIW I bought accmos 4.2s 300 spine…I bought them to see if they were a viable arrow for tac or similar shoots where I don’t feel like losing expensive arrows. I’ve shot them hundreds of times so far with 0 issues. Shooting them out of a Mathews vxr at 28” pulling 78lbs…. They shoot just as well as my maxima reds and so far appear durable.

they came with nocks that I would never use though.

 

That is 300 spine way stiffer than my 700 spine, maybe their weaker spines are not that good....happy shooting my pandanus infinity 4.2mm 700 spine without any problem yet, more than two months into it

 

That is 300 spine way stiffer than my 700 spine, maybe their weaker spines are not that good....happy shooting my pandanus infinity 4.2mm 700 spine without any problem yet, more than two months into it

I've gotta say that the 1400 spine Easton Vectors are far and away weaker than the 1400 spine Accmos arrows we have. The Accmos are lighter, and don't explode on the first encounter with the wood frame. As long as you hit the bail your okay, but...

I shoot Accmos 32" 700's, and 29" 900's from the same bow with no issues. I'm not sure what was going on with your arrows, but it isn't anything like my experience. I'm just hoping the quality hasn't dropped.

 

Perhaps an intervention would be in order for him to finally admit that he had a terrible tune.

 

Ok do the intervention, I think I have it tune, but since I've been doing this myself using videos from kaminsky, rogue archery and other I thought I have it covered....but tell me how can I see if my tune is bad? I've been shooting pandanus without any trouble. I am also flexing them before and after any round of shooting, talking about the arrows....what else can I do. Practicing my form and release so the arrow won't hit the riser, position and tension on the plunger?....btw I am not angry or mad, just telling.

 

Ok probably I got the bad batch...and since now I know the real accmos store in AliExpress I can try this time with 600 spine. But guys you got to understand how I am and was frustrated to lose so many arrows in a very stupid way....not even hitting metal or something harder.

 

Sorry to hear about your experience with those arrows! It's always frustrating when something that seems like a good deal turns out to be disappointing. Sounds like the quality just wasn't there, especially for the price. Thanks for sharing your experience though—definitely helpful for others who might be considering similar products. I hope you find a more reliable set of arrows moving forward! And hopefully the store takes some accountability for the bad products.

 

Perhaps an intervention would be in order for him to finally admit that he had a terrible tune.

Perhaps an intervention would be in order for him to finally admit that he bought junk "arrows?" that are untunable.

Ok probably I got the bad batch...and since now I know the real accmos store in AliExpress I can try this time with 600 spine.

You're joking right?

 

Perhaps an intervention would be in order for him to finally admit that he had a terrible tune.

Perhaps an intervention would be in order for him to finally admit that he bought junk "arrows?" that are untunable.

Ok probably I got the bad batch...and since now I know the real accmos store in AliExpress I can try this time with 600 spine.

You're joking right?

Yeppers.....I will rather try other brands....I am happy with my pandanus though, so the tinning sounds like a good idea, getting more info about it though!

 

its bad dud

 

Here's a great video demonstrating how a flexing arrow can clip the bow on the way past the riser.

Anyone who has a high modulus fishing rod will tell you that even minor lateral knocks and bumps against a solid object can catastrophically weaken the carbon, even though it is fantastically strong to bending forces.

 

Anyone who has a high modulus fishing rod will tell you that even minor lateral knocks and bumps against a solid object can catastrophically weaken the carbon, even though it is fantastically strong to bending forces.

I can attest to this from this past week of fly fishing. Felt a light tap on a back cast this past Tuesday. Fished the rod for three more days with lots of hook sets and decent fights. Saturday morning I walk down to the river and am about to step in when the tip gently fell to the ground right in front of my face.