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Anyone have firsthand experience with Sanlida Miracle x10 recurve sets? [Help, newbie]

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#1 ·
Hello all! I am a beginner archer looking to shoot target/olympic style recurve and I am being hit by the wall of equipment pretty hard. I saw these recurve sets by sanlida built around their newer miracle x10 riser and wondered if anyone has experience with the set as a whole? I can find a good amount on the x10 riser but not any of the other accessories. Admittedly, for $800 getting everything shy of arrows and a quiver is very appealing but not if there are either same quality items for cheaper or better quality items for the same price! here are the sets I'm talking about:

Miracle X10 ILF Target Recurve Bow Kit

Thank you all for your time, I look forward to any help folx can offer!
 
#2 ·
I'm not sure what country you live in, but over the years I've tried to buy locally even if it means paying more. Sanlida Archery is a Chinese based company and I'm sure they have taken someone elses design and reproduced it and slapped a new name on it.

They also appear to be a subsidiary of Alibaba

Just my two cents



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#16 ·
I'm not sure what country you live in, but over the years I've tried to buy locally even if it means paying more. Sanlida Archery is a Chinese based company and I'm sure they have taken someone elses design and reproduced it and slapped a new name on it.

They also appear to be a subsidiary of Alibaba

Just my two cents



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Hello all! I am a beginner archer looking to shoot target/olympic style recurve and I am being hit by the wall of equipment pretty hard. I saw these recurve sets by sanlida built around their newer miracle x10 riser and wondered if anyone has experience with the set as a whole? I can find a good amount on the x10 riser but not any of the other accessories. Admittedly, for $800 getting everything shy of arrows and a quiver is very appealing but not if there are either same quality items for cheaper or better quality items for the same price! here are the sets I'm talking about:

Miracle X10 ILF Target Recurve Bow Kit

Thank you all for your time, I look forward to any help folx can offer!
Sanlida is one of the largest archery manufacturers in China, and i do shoot a sanlida miracle x10 recurve and it is outstanding.
 
#4 ·
If they are affiliated with Alibaba, I would not deal with them. My son was burned by them, despite their so called "return" and "guarantee" policy. Good luck dealing with them if you do, and don't be too disappointed in their product. Just the fact that they are ripping off the x10 brand from Easton should be a hint. I would look at used equipment if you are looking to save a buck or two. And, in the price range you are looking at, you can get a very good setup with a name brand equipment sold here in the US.
 
#6 ·
By beginner, do you mean that you've never shoot any bow before, or that you've been shooting a recurve bow for a few weeks/months of lessons and want to buy your own, or that you're experienced in a different style of bow but have never shoot recurve, or something else? You haven't filled in any public profile info so nobody knows what angle you're coming from.

Others have already explained why it's not as good a deal as it sounds - and that's if you're able to make use out of each piece in the kit.
Their return policy is quite specific about no testing or even putting the bow together, which means that you'll be stuck with any wrong items - which is quite likely to happen if you don't have any baseline in terms of your draw length, draw weight, or how much mass you're comfortable with. Starting with a 1300g riser (towards the top end in mass) is likely to take the fun out of it. Likewise, their limb options start at 28lbs, but people generally start around 15-25lbs depending on fitness level in order to develop good form and over a couple years move up through several sets of limbs until they reach the weight that gets the distance/speed they want for the style they shoot, so starting with a mid-range pair of limbs won't last you long. Most of the vibration dampeners they include aren't used by most people, though at higher draw weights either limb dampeners or a riser dampener (though not both these days) is common. The rest of the equipment is pretty generic and is probably ok quality but it's hard to tell as they don't include much of the information that would be expected. If you aren't able to physically get to an archery shop and there aren't any second hand sets nearby, then you can get yourself a full set of the same quality from brands with a longer reputation and probably better quality control, for about $500-600 including arrows, case, everything else from Lancaster Archery - they can help you over the phone.
 
#11 ·
By beginner, do you mean that you've never shoot any bow before, or that you've been shooting a recurve bow for a few weeks/months of lessons and want to buy your own, or that you're experienced in a different style of bow but have never shoot recurve, or something else? You haven't filled in any public profile info so nobody knows what angle you're coming from.

Others have already explained why it's not as good a deal as it sounds - and that's if you're able to make use out of each piece in the kit.
Their return policy is quite specific about no testing or even putting the bow together, which means that you'll be stuck with any wrong items - which is quite likely to happen if you don't have any baseline in terms of your draw length, draw weight, or how much mass you're comfortable with. Starting with a 1300g riser (towards the top end in mass) is likely to take the fun out of it. Likewise, their limb options start at 28lbs, but people generally start around 15-25lbs depending on fitness level in order to develop good form and over a couple years move up through several sets of limbs until they reach the weight that gets the distance/speed they want for the style they shoot, so starting with a mid-range pair of limbs won't last you long. Most of the vibration dampeners they include aren't used by most people, though at higher draw weights either limb dampeners or a riser dampener (though not both these days) is common. The rest of the equipment is pretty generic and is probably ok quality but it's hard to tell as they don't include much of the information that would be expected. If you aren't able to physically get to an archery shop and there aren't any second hand sets nearby, then you can get yourself a full set of the same quality from brands with a longer reputation and probably better quality control, for about $500-600 including arrows, case, everything else from Lancaster Archery - they can help you over the phone.
Yep, brand new. I haven't had time to fill out my profile, I will get working on that when I can. I tried to indicate being new by including newbie in the title, I apologize if that is frustrating or confusing. I'm new around here...

Sanlida is an OEM for other brands. You'll find that Kinetic's risers look very similar, for instance. Some of their stuff is good quality. Here's what I would do, if you're interested in this bow:

Go to Alternative Services - Archery Shop. They are a reputable archery dealer. Every experience I've had with them has been good.

Get the A7 or Athletics 7 riser. It's less than $150 and basically the same thing.
Get the Athletics 7 limbs. Also less than $150 and exactly the same as the X10 limbs.
You could build up some Sanlida stabilizers, but you could also just get the Avalon Tyro set for $75.
Get a Shibuya DX plunger, or a Beiter of you can afford it. ($25 or $100)
Get a Shibuya Ultima rest. $35.
You can get an affordable clicker for less than $15.
The Avalon Tec One string is also about $10.
This leaves you plenty of room to spend on the sight. If you didn't splurge on the Beiter plunger, splurge on the Shibuya Ultima sight. Otherwise, if you need to save, the Shibuya Dual Click sight is a decent value. ($135 to $290).

This ends up costing about the same as your kit (with effectively the same limbs and riser), but has a rest, plunger, and sight that you'll never really need to replace. I know that because they're the stuff Olympians have recommended here and elsewhere. I firmly believe that for a recurve shooter these are the components that have a real impact on performance.
Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it. It feels impossible to get a straight answer online, let alone one that is full of so much useful information. Thank you for listing out all the suggestions, too. Honestly, knowing where to start has been an incredibly overwhelming process and super disheartening, so your help means a lot.
 
#7 ·
Sanlida is an OEM for other brands. You'll find that Kinetic's risers look very similar, for instance. Some of their stuff is good quality. Here's what I would do, if you're interested in this bow:

Go to Alternative Services - Archery Shop. They are a reputable archery dealer. Every experience I've had with them has been good.

Get the A7 or Athletics 7 riser. It's less than $150 and basically the same thing.
Get the Athletics 7 limbs. Also less than $150 and exactly the same as the X10 limbs.
You could build up some Sanlida stabilizers, but you could also just get the Avalon Tyro set for $75.
Get a Shibuya DX plunger, or a Beiter of you can afford it. ($25 or $100)
Get a Shibuya Ultima rest. $35.
You can get an affordable clicker for less than $15.
The Avalon Tec One string is also about $10.
This leaves you plenty of room to spend on the sight. If you didn't splurge on the Beiter plunger, splurge on the Shibuya Ultima sight. Otherwise, if you need to save, the Shibuya Dual Click sight is a decent value. ($135 to $290).

This ends up costing about the same as your kit (with effectively the same limbs and riser), but has a rest, plunger, and sight that you'll never really need to replace. I know that because they're the stuff Olympians have recommended here and elsewhere. I firmly believe that for a recurve shooter these are the components that have a real impact on performance.
 
#8 ·
Hello all! I am a beginner archer looking to shoot target/olympic style recurve and I am being hit by the wall of equipment pretty hard. I saw these recurve sets by sanlida built around their newer miracle x10 riser and wondered if anyone has experience with the set as a whole? I can find a good amount on the x10 riser but not any of the other accessories. Admittedly, for $800 getting everything shy of arrows and a quiver is very appealing but not if there are either same quality items for cheaper or better quality items for the same price! here are the sets I'm talking about:

Miracle X10 ILF Target Recurve Bow Kit

Thank you all for your time, I look forward to any help folx can offer!
I just purchased the X10 kit last month and love it! As an avid compound shooter looking to get into target recurve, I was in the same boat as you, overload of available equipment. To create an even bigger issue, there are no stores nearby that sell Olympic style recurves, but you can get hunting bows all day long... I stumbled across the Miracle X10 kit while looking at entry level W&W, Cartel and used Hoyt's. I did some research and there are very good reviews online. One even has a nationally ranked shooter (I believe from Canadian) shooting the X10 kit against his own $4k Hoyt set up and was only a couple points off. Being a Chinese company, I did question the quality/customer service. I can testify that Sanlida is very good quality and their customer support team is very responsive. I have been so impressed that I am currently purchasing the Hero X10 compound bow to have a dedicated target bow. My thoughts on the package were it's everything you need for one very approachable price that should be able to handle 99% of shooters. The money you save can be spent on lessons and learning how to tune your bow, which will provide much better results. Feel free to shoot me DM if you have any questions.
 
#10 ·
I can guarantee no astroturfing here... I was surfing the site looking for others who may have got one and came across this post and wanted to provide my 2 cents. I know that Chinese products can get a bad rap (I have been burned numerous times before and generally steer clear of them). But I think this one actually worked out.
 
#12 ·
Hello all! I am a beginner archer looking to shoot target/olympic style recurve and I am being hit by the wall of equipment pretty hard. I saw these recurve sets by sanlida built around their newer miracle x10 riser and wondered if anyone has experience with the set as a whole? I can find a good amount on the x10 riser but not any of the other accessories. Admittedly, for $800 getting everything shy of arrows and a quiver is very appealing but not if there are either same quality items for cheaper or better quality items for the same price! here are the sets I'm talking about:

Miracle X10 ILF Target Recurve Bow Kit

Thank you all for your time, I look forward to any help folx can offer!
Hey, this is Sean McVeigh with Sean's Outdoor Adventures. I have the Miracle X10 and I really like it. I always wanted to try this type of archery but never had the money to buy a good set, so I never gave it a try. I will also state clearly that Sanlida gave me the bow to try out. And I say that because it is easy to think I would just give a positive comment because of that. But I can say in good conscience that this bow is really nice and definitely worth the $800 in my opinion. In other words, even if they hadn't given me one of these to try, I would have bought it at that price if I had tried it out and was shopping around for one. To me, this bow has a great quality for how much it costs compared to others, and I have shot many of the major other brands when I used to go to Lancaster Archery Supply in PA to record my bow reviews. Anyway, that is my honest feedback on it. Mine has been great so far. God bless.
Sean
 
#18 ·
If you are comfortable ordering from overseas, which it seems you are, I would suggest looking at the kit Perris archery in the UK puts together. It includes everything you need to go to the range and shoot. It even looks like they will set it up and make all the adjustments so it is ready to go as soon as you receive it.


PS-Maybe I should start a side business setting up beginner kits!

Paul
 
#19 ·
FerrumVeritas above indeed speaks the iron truth.

We have two good archers shooting the Miracle X10 limbs, one of whom retired his Samick Ultra/Samick extreme combo for Sanlida. No negative comments on performance (one needed to put a washer under a detente to get it to fit in the t-block slot thingy on a W&W carbon riser. But the Athletics 7 for 2/3 the price on Alternatives looks identical.

If I needed new gear I would have no hesitation with Sanlida riser/limbs (would prefer a Gillo G2K riser though). Buy a ‘good‘ sight. Shibuya dual click are not much more than most of the sureloc knock-offs and are known quality. I also have the Shibuya plunger and that is great value for the money.
 
#20 · (Edited)
I’m currently shooting the Athletics 7 limbs, by the way. They’re not amazing. I didn’t put them on my bow and think “wow.” But I have nothing negative to say. They behave exactly as I expect a pair of limbs to behave, and are faster than the Galaxy Silver limbs they replaced (I have a suspicion that Sanlida makes the Gold Star limbs). I don't think I could get better for $150, even used. They feel better than the WNS CB1, which I think sets the quality standard in that price range.

Now, if I were super new to archery, I wouldn't spend $150 on limbs. I'd get a sub-$100 set (probably Kinetic Honoric or WNS Explore B1), because I know I'd want to replace them in a year and go up in weight.

If OP is a righty, in theory the Forged A7 is a better, more durable riser. But there's nothing wrong with fully milled either. I was wrong though, the Athletics 7 risers are an older branding of the higher end Miracle riser, rather than the Myth X10. The shape and cutouts are identical.
 
#22 ·
Sanlida is the largest archery company in the world. They make products for lots of OEM. You’ve almost certainly shot there products but with a different name. And price!
That being said I’m shooting a CD riser with Hoyt Xtours. Both made in America.
 
#23 ·
Did you buy the bow? I've been shooting my Sanlida X10 for about 6 mo now. Got it in Gold which has a orangish hue to it & it gets a lot of looks. I like it a lot! Nice comfortable wood handle for a (sm) to (med) hand size with a slightly raised front edge that my fingers rest on, narrow neck pivot point & is considered a high handle. I chose this bow for two reasons: 1. Handle height, wood material 2. Price point, paid $200 for 24" at Lancast Archery on close out. My total barebow cost with bow, WNS carbon/foam limbs, string, 9 Victory Vaps arrows, a used front facing quiver & belt, WNS wrap around rest, Shibuya DX plunger & Yost 3 under tab was $550. If your shooting Olympic Recurve it will add another $200 - $300 for the balance bars, weights & pivots. I started shooting at a local club first to get an idea of what I liked first then moved on from there. Hope you like what you decide on. Happy shooting.
 
#24 ·
I can't speak to the quality of Sanlida, as I've never used one. I'd resist the temptation to buy a package deal like that, and would piece it together based on recommendations here, reviews on Lancaster Archery or best -advice from a local OR coach. That way you know the value and replacibility of each piece. $800 should be enough for a setup like that, and you'll know its quality. It's just a little slower and tougher for us rookies to pick each piece.

-NMB
 
#26 ·
Hello all! I am a beginner archer looking to shoot target/olympic style recurve and I am being hit by the wall of equipment pretty hard. I saw these recurve sets by sanlida built around their newer miracle x10 riser and wondered if anyone has experience with the set as a whole? I can find a good amount on the x10 riser but not any of the other accessories. Admittedly, for $800 getting everything shy of arrows and a quiver is very appealing but not if there are either same quality items for cheaper or better quality items for the same price! here are the sets I'm talking about:

Miracle X10 ILF Target Recurve Bow Kit

Thank you all for your time, I look forward to any help folx can offer!
I have had real good experience with Sanlida miracle x10, I shoot the myth x10 different riser , great quality no problems at all.
 
#31 ·
“Sanlida spirit is to provide affordable gears to all archers whom enjoyed the sport, rather than bashing out any brand with hatred words.” It appears that the real spirt of this company is to steal other companies designs. This company can say all they want about “affordability” but I would feel guilty buying from them know that I would be supporting this type of behavior.
1) Ask yourself if morally you are ok intellectual property theft. This is a big company. They don’t need to do this. They choose to do this. Buying anything made by them condones this behavior.
2)Now ask is this a good deal? The answer is maybe. But used equipment is a better deal. And yes it is a lot to sort through when it comes to equipment. But please deal with coach that help you find what you need. And make sure it is a good fit for you.
3) For any Chinese mainlanders 香港不是中國! But now even that is ruined.
 
#36 ·
One recent online review [I think it was the Miracle limbs and Myth (sp) riser] noted that while it was a nice beginner set up, there were some flaws... In design with the Berger holes not lined up with the grip; In quality control with the limbs not tracking true and a pretty sharp transition for the string loop to come over which may effect serving life; And with the accessories where the plunger's lightest setting was still quite overly stiff and he couldn't get the clicker to stay in place... Again, he noted it was a decent beginner set up, and he did add about 10pts or so over a 36 arrow round at 70m by throwing his own stab set on, swapping out the grip, and mounting the plunger in the front Berger hole which might have made the set up more forgiving to torque than the rear plunger mount.

The reviews are on Kaminski's YouTube page.