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#1 ·
I plan on having a dozen Easton Axis arrows built with brass inserts installed. I am wondering if I should request the store to add some sort of collar or additional lip to them. I didn’t know how far the insert was recessed into the shaft.

If no collar or lip is added is it just carbon contacting the broadhead?

Are there any problems switching between field points and broadheads with this setup?

I am also just debating building the arrows myself since all the stores are very busy, don’t know how many components and tools I would need to get. Any info for a rookie?

Thanks
Doug
 
#2 ·
The best would be to order up some iron will collars either in 10 grain or 25 grain. Easton makes a "bar" and only weight a few grains and they do help beef up the front as well. What I do with the iron will collars as I shoot 125 field tips with no collars and then add the 25 grain collar and 100 grain head to hunt with. I've never had much of a problem with front end durability on an axis especially target shooting, miss a target or hit something hard and things can get damaged, but what arrow doesn't. If practicing with collars on just run a bigger diameter feild tip to make things more streamline, shooting a bag target will be your biggest problem running a footer.
 
#3 ·
I plan on having a dozen Easton Axis arrows built with brass inserts installed. I am wondering if I should request the store to add some sort of collar or additional lip to them. I didn’t know how far the insert was recessed into the shaft.

If no collar or lip is added is it just carbon contacting the broadhead?

Are there any problems switching between field points and broadheads with this setup?

I am also just debating building the arrows myself since all the stores are very busy, don’t know how many components and tools I would need to get. Any info for a rookie?

Thanks
Doug
Hey Doug,
Me and my hunting partner started building our own arrows this past deer season. It’s not very difficult once you run a couple. The main thing you want to get is an arrow squaring tool to square off the end of the shaft. Now as far as the insert, I’d recommend going with an Ethics Archery insert (they have a variety of weights). As far as a collar or footer, it’s always a good deal to add some type of outsert to support the carbon at the tip of the shaft. I did not do that this past season and had a couple of my arrows split right at the end so that’s an update I plan to make in the off season.
Good luck!
 
#4 ·
Easton BAR is the best to protect front end of shaft if you don't want to add any more weight to the front.
Easton should supply them as hit inserts suck & see a lot of axis shafts crack.
 
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#6 · (Edited)
I plan on having a dozen Easton Axis arrows built with brass inserts installed. I am wondering if I should request the store to add some sort of collar or additional lip to them. I didn’t know how far the insert was recessed into the shaft.

If no collar or lip is added is it just carbon contacting the broadhead?

Are there any problems switching between field points and broadheads with this setup?
The Axis 5mm is an awesome arrow, I’ve been shooting them exclusively through my hunting bow for the past year. I have about 2 dozen of them and shoot indoor targets, indoor 3D, and outdoor straw bale field courses and and 3D with them.

All of mine are set up with aluminum HIT inserts and I haven’t run into any need for collars on them. I do use the BAR rings for my broadheads and they’ve worked perfectly. If you don’t use a collar or the BAR, your broadhead will tighten down to the carbon as you said. The BAR does a good job of protecting the front of the arrow.

My field points screw directly down to the front face of the arrow shaft and I haven’t had any issues with mine busting up the carbon, even when the point is damaged after hitting the rubber mat behind a worn out bale.
 
#8 ·
Axis are fine without one. Anything you do to
Kill an axis without a collar will surely kill one with a collar.

if you wanna get crazy buy some xx75 aluminum shafts and a tubing cutter and glue on your own. I used some 2016’s they are about 10 gpi. But they might be a little large depending on your spine.
 
#9 · (Edited)
Can you put standard inserts in the axis or will only the HIT inserts fit?

If I put the HIT inserts will my G5 Striker V2s fit?

If I put a collar or Easton BAR will my G5 Striker V2 broadheads still work?

The only reason I’m thinking of the HIT inserts is because I want either 50 or 75gr insterts. I’ll decide on the final weight after testing.
 
#12 ·
I plan on having a dozen Easton Axis arrows built with brass inserts installed. I am wondering if I should request the store to add some sort of collar or additional lip to them. I didn’t know how far the insert was recessed into the shaft.

If no collar or lip is added is it just carbon contacting the broadhead?

Are there any problems switching between field points and broadheads with this setup?

I am also just debating building the arrows myself since all the stores are very busy, don’t know how many components and tools I would need to get. Any info for a rookie?

Thanks
Doug
i didn't read any replies, so i apologize if i'm echoing other replies....

just carbon is what contacts the broadhead/field point, no issue switching from broadheads to field points at all. they are pretty tough as is, but they can be made to be a super tough arrow with a few different options. my option is the cheapest, and that's to find the outside diameter of the spine arrow you're shooting, and match it with the inside diameter of an easton aluminum, and just make some 1-1.5" footers, just epoxy on after you build your arrows.

iron will makes impact collars too, which are nice, but heavier and pricier. i think vpa builds a footer for them too