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Banned from the Gang

10K views 70 replies 56 participants last post by  rembrandt  
#1 ·
Welp, got the banned banner on TG when checking over the online forums. I think I broke the rules responding to a thread asking about my Native, not being a sponsor and all. Wasn't trying to sell anything, if that was the infraction, but rules are rules and the page says I won't be welcome back. Whoops.

Apologies to the fine folks here, TG, and TT if I've overstepped rules in such a manner, it was never my intent. I just like to talk about what I make and share photos when something turns out well and makes me smile, not sell anything. Thank you all for suffering a young fool trying to figure this life stuff out. I'd love to do more to support the archery community as a proper sponsor on all these avenues and customer of all these fine businesses, but we're not getting rich by any means. We live humbly and are grateful for what we have and are very blessed by these opportunities. We're always working to do better as we move forward.

Honestly, it really makes me wonder what the heck I'm doing, though. Don't make enough to "cover all my bases" for some folks, don't make enough to offer my family the level of comfort they might like, and it's become a very time-intensive profession. I'd hoped with my wife helping run the office we could do more, but it's not gone that way. Best way to afford it all properly might be to just quit entirely and get into another career, save as much as possible for as long as possible, and come back to building during retirement. Might just need more practice and patience. I don't know.

Again, my sincerest apologies for any rule-breaking and my deepest gratitude for the patience shown over the years. I was an angry, obnoxious teen when I first started posting and I appreciate being allowed to hang around anyway. Thank you!!
 
#29 ·
I don’t know anything about the politics or motivations involved but I find that in most situations like this, nobody is intending to be unreasonable. I find that most rules are created out of reasonable intentions. Then people start rigidly enforcing those rules with a narrow focus and it leads to unreasonable results.

Kegan, I have always found your posts to be positive and informative. I have a hard time believing that a thinking person would decide that a traditional archery forum is better without you in it.

Mistakes are a part of life. You’ve accepted and apologized for yours. Perhaps they will realize that banning you was also a mistake and come up with an accommodation. I hope so.
 
#30 ·
I deeply appreciate the kindness offered, everyone. I made a mistake, broke the rules, and am sorry for having done so. No apology is owed to me and there's no need for anyone to bend rules or make exceptions. I'm grateful for all that have offered guidance and support!
 
#38 ·
I get messages every time I post on TT about needing to be a sponsor and also someone reported one of my sale threads about a year ago and I got the sponsor pm so I just don’t post much on those sites .
They should feel lucky to have you buddy
 
#39 ·
My dear friend

I know I’ve been mia of late but I hate to see you down

You are the best of what this sport is in every way

From the bows you craft to the way you conduct your business

Also I’ll lay down the money to bet you could swab the deck when it comes to shooting of anyone on there

Never let a bunch of jerks like the kind that make decisions on TG make you doubt anything about yourself

As for getting banned ........ I got banned years ago ....the management are jerk offs

I’ll reach out buddy
 
#40 ·
Normally, you might look at this as a badge of honor. Recognizing that you are in the business, though, means it takes away an avenue to get your message out. However, for TragGang, it looks like that avenue is more of a cul-de-sac, or a dead end street, or the road that leads to the hazardous waste dump.
 
#42 ·
Kegan,
No one likes getting the shove, especially when you don't really understand why. TG use to be my big time hangout place. Made some good friends over there, but as time went on I could see the very fine line you had to walk if you wanted to keep your "admit one" ticket.

I am not a trouble maker, but also do not play those games. Some folks got away with everything and the rest have to make sure your t's are crossed and your i's dotted, so to speak. I left and have not looked back. You should do the same, it is definitely there loss.

Your bows are shooters. My one buddy Homey88 has a few, which I have shot, and they work.......and you keep up the good work.


Good Shooting->->->->Craig
 
#44 ·
You are too hard on yourself. You have always come across straight, not based on what others might think about a post and not for some immediate benefit but on personal principles.

Breaking rules is breaking rules but I will say it is also pretty rare to have character these days.
 
#56 ·
Happens to the best of us!! I got banned as well for speaking truthfully about Asbell’s and Ron LaClair and quoting facts. Seems facts and data have no place their either??

Kegan - Any dealings with you have always been above professional and your replies extremely prompt!! Take it from someone who has been in a career for 30+ years that I have zero passion for, simply because the money is decent........As the quote goes, “Do something you love and you’ll never work a day in your life!”

I wish I was only as blessed as you are!!

Mark
 
#57 ·
Getting banned from TG is not all bad. I am sure you are disappointed for breaking their rules, but mistakes happen. It is, however, a loss to their membership. They will not have the benefit of your insights and wealth of knowledge. I used to visit that site daily and really developed some good friendships and acquaintances within their membership. I have also leaned a lot from many of their members as well.
 
#58 ·
What is the purpose of getting banned from a forum? If you want to stay you register a new user and password and keep on posting with your new profile. Got banned on another site making a political joke. I write a letter to the owner and asked him if my post offend only the moderator or everyone in the world. I ask him also what does it help I get banned and will create in new user in one minute. He lifted the ban.
 
#60 ·
keep your head up man! you truly have integrity to compose your business as you do, as well as compose yourself the way you do. TG is the loser here, lost a great member over lack of communication.

I was actually going to check TG out, for another resource as well as a group of like minded folks.... now there is no way.... stuff like that irritates the heck out of me, I have never seen you plug your business above another, even when it deserves it.

I hope you keep doing what you're doing, you are a rare business man, and it's in a refreshing way