[Chopayne]

Im thinking this will be pretty controversial, just wondering what AT Forums stance is on barbed arrows or regular broadheads.

My personal opinion, I don't see a need for barbed. Whether you hit them with barbed or regular broadhead, a good hit is a good hit, all youre doing with barbed on a bad hit is youre forcing them to walk around with an arrow sticking out when a regular broadhead would have been pushed or pulled out. Sure broadheads might take a few days to come out, but barbed will basically be in there forever. Its cruel.

Some people might say "oh its those non hunters making up rules for hunters" but in this case im going to have to disagree.

What are your thoughts? Meant to edit the title of this thread but it looks like it published without allowing me to edit.

 

[iceman14]

I think its a dumbass rule. Gladly, its not a reg here. If it went in, its coming out. An exodus, for example, is basically just keeping the total arrow length to a minimum. That head will hang up just as much as a muzzy.

 

[Chopayne]

I think scientific research and trials indicates that barbed arrows are far, really far less likely to come out than regular broadhead. Barbed has to come out the other side. Have you ever had one stuck inside of you? The only way it comes out is if you pull really hard and rip out a chunk of your skin. Regular broadheads slide out a bit easier.

 

[Dbrisc]

In South Dakota we can't use them. I get the reason for the rule and I don't mind it. Most heads I shoot or want to shoot aren't considered barbed anyway so it really doesn't bother me.

 

[Srongchoo]

what would an example of a barbed broadhead be? i use them for bowfishing, but thats it. its illegal here in ky, and i feel like there is a good reason. what would the benefit be for a barbed broadhead?

 

[jjtrain44]

what would an example of a barbed broadhead be? i use them for bowfishing, but thats it. its illegal here in ky, and i feel like there is a good reason. what would the benefit be for a barbed broadhead?

i agree what benefit will be gained by using them i want two holes on my animal entry/exit, no desire to have the arrow hang up inside

 

[AR&BOW]

Hunt whatever your state allows, but personally I am for a non-barbed bh. A barb on a fixed blade bh is obvious. For a mechanical bh to not be barbed the blades must fold forward and past 90 degrees. An example of a popular barbed mechanical is a 3 blade Rage. The 2 blade Rage is not.

 

[stork64]

Barbed are illegal here, and I totally agree with that. If it is not a clean kill shot I want the animal to have every chance to fully recover.

 

[backcast88]

Barbed heads are illegal in my state as well. I understand the reason why some states and people do not like barbed heads. If my state allowed barbed heads I do not know if I would use them. Not b/c I have anything against barbed heads, I already shoot heads that are not barbed and I prefer them over non barbed heads. The reason I like them has nothing to do with the fact that they are not barbed. Just a personal preference.

Having said that, the one thing that I don't understand is how 2 states that do not allow barbed heads and 1 state says a particular head is barbed and illegal and the other says its not. For example, G5 Tekan as well as Rage 3 blade are considered barbed and illegal in NY but not considered barbed and are legal in NC. Consistency would be nice.

 

[golfanddeernut]

I own some land in NY and noticed they do not permit barbed heads, which I am OK with even though they are legal in PA. Yet I find it strange you can go into Walmart and buy Rage Broadheads, etc. one guy was telling me they were his favorites. Also it is pretty obvious a lot of people bait even though that is illegal also. I stopped in during hunting season and people were buying all types of baits and talking about how the deer liked them. Well crossbows are also illegal in NY but they sell bolts in Walmart too. I found it interesting.

 

[Fortyneck]

Crossbows were legal for a couple years in NY, but not since New Years Eve.

 

[mhill]

I own some land in NY and noticed they do not permit barbed heads, which I am OK with even though they are legal in PA. Yet I find it strange you can go into Walmart and buy Rage Broadheads, etc. one guy was telling me they were his favorites. Also it is pretty obvious a lot of people bait even though that is illegal also. I stopped in during hunting season and people were buying all types of baits and talking about how the deer liked them. Well crossbows are also illegal in NY but they sell bolts in Walmart too. I found it interesting.

Samething goes for the 2 blade bloodrunner. I emailed the NYSDEC and their excuse was that it is not illegal to posses them but it is illegal to hunt with them what kind of BS excuse is that. I asked is it fair for sportsman to purchase a product in a store in that state assuming the store will not sell something illegal in that state and get busted using those head. Another example of this same crap is how walmart and Dicks Sportinggoods sells mineral attractant with an exclaimer below saying in NYS it is not lawful to feed or attract deer to the same location by the use of attractants (that the jist of it not word for word) to keep from spreading disease.

Also Crossbows are not illegal anymore in NY, they just cannot be used during archery season, they can be used during turkey and regular deer season.

 

[chaded]

what would an example of a barbed broadhead be? i use them for bowfishing, but thats it. its illegal here in ky, and i feel like there is a good reason. what would the benefit be for a barbed broadhead?

This is a broadhead that is considered barbed and I will continue to use it as long as it is legal here.

 

[Fortyneck]

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Also Crossbows are not illegal anymore in NY, they just cannot be used during archery season, they can be used during turkey and regular deer season.

IDK, this comes up on the DEC site pertaining to crossbow hunting in NY:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/68802.html

 

[Chopayne]

I don't see the point of using barbs, it just stays in them. People hated them during medieval warfare because the only way to get them out, was to push it through the other side. Barbed usually means the metal prongs extend past 90 degrees.

 

[chaded]

I don't see the point of using barbs, it just stays in them. People hated them during medieval warfare because the only way to get them out, was to push it through the other side. Barbed usually means the metal prongs extend past 90 degrees.

Mine don't. They go right through them.

 

[Chopayne]

Every single time? My impression was that not all arrows go all the way through all the tme.

 

[chaded]

Actually if you look at the exodus broadhead I posted a picture of, it is considered barbed. If you shoot a deer and it does not go all the way through a regular broadhead will likely be just as stuck as a barbed one like you see above. When it is in that far they don't just slide right back out because they are a regular style broadhead. There is still the chance that if it goes in as such it could get twisted up inside the deer from it running and moving the arrow, with either style head. It really is a none issue in my opinion.

 

[iceman14]

Most guys hunt from a treestand, sooo the arrow goes in at a downward angle. If it doesnt go through, theres a pretty good chance that arrow is going to get snapped. I dont think either style has a good chance of coming out.

 

[SWOreBowHunter]

Mechanicals and barbed fixed blades are illegal here.