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Keep it simple, sir.

I agree that we need to keep it simple. They don't need, and we teachers don't need a guide book for barebow. Set your anchor, look down the shaft, point at a mark and see where it goes. Too high, bring it down, too wide move it over. Simple. Then worry about string or face walking. As for being a TD and a division added, just have barebow available. The point is to NOT exclude them. The point is to welcome them. So if you only get two kids, or adults in some shoots, then you only get two. Once the word is out, then it should grow. Things go in cycles. I don't know if it is at a low point or what. As for bow divisions, keep it simpe again. I like FITA, compound, Olympic recuve (sights), and barebow. Nearly the end of the story.:rolleyes:
 

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Does it have to be this complicated Bob? We have adult barebow equipment rules. With the exception of allowing the NASP kids with their genesis bows there is no need to reinvent the wheel. All that is being asked is to add bowman, cub, cadet and junior age divisions to the JOAD competitions. Everything else stays the same. Targets and distances are the same as olympic recurve, except they don't have to compete directly against olympic recurve. If the process to gain inclusion takes an act of congress, it is not going to happen. It took the TSAA board about 5 minutes to decide this was a good idea.
Tom,

You speak from a position of seasoned experience, I from a lack of experience..
As a result, I have lots of questions?

1. Is it right to address both barebow and field?
2. Would it be good to solicit input from NFAA, ASA, NADA, NASP and others?
3. Do our partner associations, in the growth of target archery, want to help with funding?
4. If barebow and field are supported by JOAD, what information should there be in the JOAD handbook?
5. Will barebow be only FITA barebow so events can be Star FITAs or should NFAA barebow the model or should it be FITA/Genesis type or should it be compound barebow be for Cub and Bowman only?
6. At field tournaments, are the yellow pegs close enough for Cubs and Bowman?
7. Which National Championships will offer JOAD barebow. (Indoor, Outdoor, Field, JOAD Indoor, JOAD Outdoor)?
8. Will eight barebow categories national championships be awarded (Boy, Girl x Bowman, Cub, Cadet, and Junior) or should categories be combined?
9. Are Bowman, Cub, Cadet and Junior x Boys and Girls x compound, recurve and barebow to be offered at the USAA FITA field championships.

Since I don’t know much about field and barebow, there are likely even more questions to ask.
I can guarantee that each of the above questions and more will be asked and we should have a considered answer for each.

A committee of one could take on the task of documenting JOAD barebow and field proposal and often a very skilled and driven committee chairperson effectively does just that.
I suggest that it is best invite participation to utilize the strength of many people.
Asking others for input lets them know that their opinion is important.

JOAD is the most established and well known youth archery program in the USA.
JOAD needs the support of the target archery community as a whole to insure wide spread youth archery outreach for years to come.
 

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Don't kill the baby.

Having organization is good and a important part. Let's not kill the Barebow Baby by burying it under. All we need to do is add barebow to the list. Stop there. As for the pins and stars, the same distances as currently used. Let us "encourage" local groups to include field archery, of any kind. Get it off the ground locally, and then we can get moving statewide (we're talking about once or twice a year, max) (locals can do as many as they can get together, but it still probably wouldn't be more than two to three a year at most). After state involvement, then regional, and at that point the big boys and girls might be interested in support, meaning NAA, NFAA, etc. Hmmm, in short, LET US HAVE FUN FIRST. We don't want to kill the sport and the love of the sport the way Little League has been destroyed. My two-bits worth of insight.

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Having organization is good and a important part. Let's not kill the Barebow Baby by burying it under. All we need to do is add barebow to the list. Stop there. As for the pins and stars, the same distances as currently used. Let us "encourage" local groups to include field archery, of any kind. Get it off the ground locally, and then we can get moving statewide (we're talking about once or twice a year, max) (locals can do as many as they can get together, but it still probably wouldn't be more than two to three a year at most). After state involvement, then regional, and at that point the big boys and girls might be interested in support, meaning NAA, NFAA, etc. Hmmm, in short, LET US HAVE FUN FIRST. We don't want to kill the sport and the love of the sport the way Little League has been destroyed. My two-bits worth of insight.

And DO NOT forget to VOTE today!:)
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Richard,
I sense that local clubs are giving JOAD Barebow and JOAD Field a try, the example is Texas.
I think we all want a simple solution.
But the “what if’s” and “why not’s” need to be addressed.
Ideally program changes need overwhelming if not consensus support.
Support is not given when questions are left un answered, then, the proposal dies.

I suggest that to insure that a proposal has a chance to succeed, it must be well thought out, documented clearly and comprehensively and ultimately answer the question,” How does it help to grow quality target archery for the future?”.
Don’t let the baby die due to a lack of attention.
Few JOADs will have bare bow fun if there is no official bare bow in JOAD.

What I do notice is that there are a lot of special groups that are focused on their individual needs.
Here are a few:
• JOAD Bare bow
• JOAD field
• JOAD that can shoot well indoors but are unable to shoot the outdoor distances for their age.
• High School seniors that are too old for JOAD.
• JOAD achievements at distances and target face sizes that are not easily accommodated at a particular range or JOAD class.
• Pins vs. Patches
• Jr USAT program oversight.

Each of these topics and countless others deserve attention and a strategy to maximize usefulness and success.
I know that there are folks out there that would like to help to give back to the sport that has done so much for them and their family.
Working together on any one issue is a great way to contribute.

One more thing, it is easier to write up information that is understandable to experienced archery folks than it is to write for a parent and child new to target archery or JOAD.
I deal with confusion all day, mostly my own making . Clear communcation is the key to success and allows us to spend more time with worthwhile endeavors.
 
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