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Best 750 watt AWD Ebike

1.4K views 31 replies 15 participants last post by  gjs4  
#1 ·
Been looking lately. A bit overwhelming. What's everyone's favorite?
 
#2 ·
I picked up a 2025 Wallke X3 Pro. Dual battery and dual motor. Its power is impressive. I’ve only put 15 miles on it so far, but it hasn’t even bumped one battery bar yet. Those miles have all been in AWD and with full padal assist. It Climbs steep hills with unexpected ease in AWD.

it is a physically large bike. It folds in half, so I can get it in and out of the truck fairly easy. It’s heavy. Two motors and two batteries are just over 100lbs. But it has the power to make it go.
 
#3 ·
an aquaitance has a Bulidog bike, it looked like this one, not sure if his is awd or just rwd


 
#5 ·
The lightest and cheapest option (my opinion the BEST option) is to buy a hard tail (no rear suspension) used bike off FB marketplace, then add a Bafang direct drive (not hub drive). You’d be in it for well under $2000, have more power, and almost HALF the weight of most commercial e-bikes.

I think a Bafang kit runs about $1100ish for the 1000W version. And your total weight will come out to around 50-60lbs VS 80-100lbs for a commercial setup.

Or buy a cheap welded aluminum bike from Walmart and add the Bafang kit. Their Ozark Trail bikes are cheap and have really good frames. Eventually you’ll want better components and wheels, which is why FB might be a better option from the start.
 
#6 ·
There are some threads about this on AT and it has intrigued me. The guys who have done so are pretty willing to share, plus I remember them referencing a Youtube channel where a fellow walks a viewer through the process. However, if I was going to invest the time and funds to created a DIY ebike, I would buy the best lightweight mountain bike I could afford to put all the components on. You might be able to find such in FB marketplace, but I would personally not start such a project on a new or used Walmart model.

I don't have that kind of time or motivation at present, but if my old Rambo R750 dies, I won't invest many hundreds of dollars to keep it going. Not sure if someone has stepped into the market niche, but a customized ebike builder who uses top shelf frames, keeps the weight down and was competive in price.....would likely have a thriving business.
 
#7 ·
Anyone who advertises an AWD bike is company that is run by folks who don't engineer bikes but rather cobble components together and sell you it.
There's a reason top shelf companies don't make AWD bikes.

Soon as you start moving forward all your weight shifts to the rear tire. On every little bump, your front tire has little weight on it so it actually bounces off the ground all the time.

If you motorize the front tire, everytime the tire lifts off the ground it will momentarily speed up without friction from the ground. When the sped up tire hits soil again, it will have an awful and darty feeling to it. No bueno.

E bikes are not ATVs. I don't care what anyone or any companies advertises.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Have you ridden an AWD ebike? If so, perhaps you didn't have it set in the best PAS setting. While my experience on them is limited, it has been nothing like what you have described. You are only making an example of one scenario, and one that may never be an issue for some riders. It sounds to me like your premise is that the AWD ebike will be used as a mountain bike would. For some that may be the case, but here, I think we're talking about a hunting application. For me specifically, I'm using it to get to the middle and back edges of places that are otherwise too far to walk in and haul out. The hunting pressure in the front areas make it undesirable.

I can assure you that AWD (using two motors instead of one) makes a tremendous difference when climbing hills. I've tried single rear, single front and AWD. Two 750w motors can accomplish twice the work of one, and mine can climb a 30% incline with 100% PAS and no input from me. My front tire doesn't bounce off the ground "all the time". I don't recall that happening once yet. Perhaps you have forgotten to consider the weight of the front motor and the position of the battery and it's weight. Maybe also recognize how Pedal Assist works, along with torque/cadence sensors and throttle controls. And there is the ability to set the amount of pedal assist for each pedal assist setting. I have mine setup in 0-5 PAS. In PAS 1 i have 15% assist and go up gradually, and in PAS 5 I have it set to AO. As speed increases I increase PAS. As I slow down I decrease PAS. When stopped, I'm in PAS 1, and my take-offs are quite easy and there's no spinning of tires, as you claim. When I get off the bike I put it in PAS 0.

Ebikes are not ATV's- that is correct, and they were never intended to be ATV's. They are bicycles with electric motors. Various states establish codes for where and how they can be used, and what power limitations they have for different areas. For example, my state code mandates that use in DWR lands limits ebikes to Class 2 requirements, which limit the speed of the bike and power of a motor. In public spaces not controlled by DWR, ebikes must conform to no greater than class 3 limitations, and all ebikes must be affixed with a decal indicating it's class. For ATV's; however, imposing such limitations on them would be unrealistic from a manufacturing perspective. And ATV's pose the potential to introduce something in to the DWR environment that is largely unwelcome- noise, negative affect on terrain, speed, potential for injury, etc.
 
#9 ·
I don’t know what u decide. But I got to ride a aventon 2 or something and I’m saving my aluminum can money now.

im a big guy and that bike absolutely blew me away. In short. It pushed my big tail to the top of the hill and the assistance was awesome.
 
#11 ·
Ecells Monarch is probably the best AWD ebike out there.

The problem is the company, the owner, and a lot of the staff are trash.

As far as the guy saying they aren’t engineered right, that is definitely not true. They work fine, but you do need to be wary of the settings. If you plan on climbing steep terrain, especially with weight on the bike (like for hunting), then you’ll want AWD.