I have the Pine Ridge and a 15" stab out front. My cam never touches the ground. I have it sized to fit over my limb pocket and it doesn't come off the bow when I'm out in the field. I shot a 3d with it a week ago like that. It's not noisy, nor is it heavy enough to throw my shot off if I leave it on the bow while I shoot. I have a ground steak, as well, but I just don't like it.
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