[Chance]

My question is what do you think of the cut on contact, fixed or other flip open broadhead versus the Swhacker design. This isn't a Mechanical or Fixed Head argument. My question is really the claim of Swhacker on its design. They claim the blades do not deploy upon contact and only after entry do they open inside the animal. The fresh cutting blades are inside the animal and not dull because of cutting hair and skin. Is this design not better than any other broadhead? The logic seems sound but not necessarily so unless you have another opinion. By no means do I think it's the best broadhead on the market. I took my best Buck with a 85gr. Slick Trick. I will be testing several broadheads soon and thought this would be a good question for seasoned hunters.

 

[young blood]

There’s a lot of Swhacker haters but they are mostly people who have never used them or people who don’t like Hank Parker. My hunting partner and I have killed a lot of big bodied mule deer and elk with them. We’ve had 1” entry and 2.5” entrance holes. It depends on the angle of the animal and the angle of the wing blades when it enters. We have had enormous blood trails and plenty of pass throughs. Not all pass throughs but at least half have been. Never had a bent or broken blade. One bent Ferrule but that was on a solid spine shot that dropped the animal in its tracks. They are great heads.

I really like the look of the new Levi Morgan Swhacker. It has a slotted ferrule and curved blades. I think it will penetrate even better than the originals. I’ll probably use them this January on mule deer.

 

[Chance]

My question was in Theory they should be better than most. All cut on contact broadheads are cutting hair and skin before they hit vitals. Not bashing any other broadheads but wanted opinions from those that shoot fixed or other heads. The Swhacker Theory seems sound therefore questioning the argument of those that feel Mechanicals shouldn't be used.

 

[young blood]

I guess I don’t understand your question. I went back and reread your post to see where I went wrong but I still don’t understand. I don’t understand either of your posts. Sorry I couldn’t help. Maybe someone else can help. I’m out.

 

[Adamsdjr]

My question was in Theory they should be better than most. All cut on contact broadheads are cutting hair and skin before they hit vitals. Not bashing any other broadheads but wanted opinions from those that shoot fixed or other heads. The Swhacker Theory seems sound therefore questioning the argument of those that feel Mechanicals shouldn't be used.

The downside is that they create a small entrance hole and if you don’t get a pass through you could have a difficult to follow blood trail. Also, the aluminum ferrule version have a long ferrule that is prone to bending when something hard is hit. A solution to your concern about cutting skin and hair before the the vitals is to use a broadhead made from quality steel that will retain an edge well. I shot a mature whitetail buck quartering toward me slightly with an Iron Will. I missed my spot a bit and the head went through the scapula and centered a rib on exit. You could still easily shave hair off your arm with that head. So no need to avoid cutting hair and hide if you use a head made from high quality steel.

 

[Wolfey]

Rear deployment heads have killed many animals even though they cut through hide first. Your over thinking it and you dont need iron wills to have a sharp head through the vitals.

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[457121]

I was given 3 packs of Swhackers back in Dec. '17. I have killed 9 deer with them. The only non pass through was on a bedded buck where the head lodged in the opposite leg bone. That one was not reusable, bent ferrule and one blade. I have not had the small entrance wounds that many have claimed. I do sharpen the blades before using them as I would only rate them as semi sharp out of the package.

 

[Chance]

Good info folks. To be clear I was only speaking of the theory of the Swhacker. As I said before. My best Buck was killed with a 85gr. Slick Trick with a complete pass-through. It's just interesting to think that the initial entry of a Broadhead could dull blades to the degree not do its job.

 

[Kris87]

I can say that of all the mechanicals I've used over the years, I had more passthroughs (all of them) with Swhackers than Killzones, Ulmers, Rages, and Grim Reapers. I do believe they penetrate better than rear deploy designs.

 

[Viking53]

when using expandable broadheads Swacker is a good broadhead,but i always liked Elmer expandables better,sad they no longer sell or make the Elmer broadhead.
i still like using cut on impact fixed broadhead called Zwickey Eskimo 2 blade with bleeders i shoot alot less poundage because of my age and bad shoulders now days.when i hand sharpen this broadhead myself it seems to draw plenty blood for good blood trail to follow. good luck ,Viking53

 

[roosiebull]

you dont need iron wills to have a sharp head through the vitals.

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but in the spirit of this thread, iron will is a far better design:wink: they are expensive, but to me, the price is warranted. honestly, if I was shooting a compound, and considering a mech head, the trypan is the only one I would consider, because I build my arrows for elk, and use them for everything.... none of the other mechs are designs I could trust on an elk.... will they work most of the time well enough? yeah.... is dead dead enough? yeah.... is there a higher potential for failure with longer aluminum ferrules, and steep blade angles with crappy thin blades? of course.

I had a highly touted fixed blade fold up on me last year..... not gonna happen again, and I can't believe it happened at all.... pretty obvious looking at the design that it had failure potential, so now I look at that aspect, and most mechs have lots of failure potential...even the better ones. moving parts in general are a red flag, let alone weak designs and weak materials.... relying on a rubber band on a shot of a lifetime is crazy to me!

there are lots of red flags to me with the swhacker design.... asking for it

 

[Shelby]

What sense does it make shooting a BH, Swacker, that gives you an extremely small entrance hole because if you don't get a passthrough you have no to a very little bloodtrail. And there's no guarantee of a passthrough.

 

[jkkcrazy]

With a swhacker you still get at least a 1" entrance, most times bigger. There's not much difference between an entrance from a swhacker and a 2 blade fixed head.

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[Shelby]

With a swhacker you still get at least a 1" entrance, most times bigger. There's not much difference between an entrance from a swhacker and a 2 blade fixed head.

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But it's a lot different than a 2-blade Rage so why use a BH that doesn't give you the large entrance hole for better blood trails and in case you don't get a passthrough

 

[MonsterManiac7]

I have had nothing but decent to poor experiences with Schwackers. In my experience, entrances holes were small. If you got a pass through you had a great blood trail, but if you didnt you were in for a long evening. I think they are a horrible choice for treestand hunters where high entrance wounds are the norm; you are really screwed without an exit in those cases. They work fine when they work, but if you hit bone or have a less than ideal shot angle they are poor.

 

[pottergreg]

If you want to shoot a true quality broad head, try a cutthroat!

 

[_paradox_]

I guess I don’t understand your question. I went back and reread your post to see where I went wrong but I still don’t understand. I don’t understand either of your posts. Sorry I couldn’t help. Maybe someone else can help. I’m out.

I think what he's trying to ask is; is there an advantage to a broadhead who's blades don't come into contact with (and therefore get dulled by) hide and hair? Does coming into contact with hide and hair on a COC broad head dull or damage the blades before they can reach vitals?

 

[Normash Shwacks]

The 2 blade shwacker will get you a 1.25" entrance. They don't kickout on angled hits either. Plus they fly good. Get the blades sharp.

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[1Lee]

I shot swhacker for 2 years with a couple very good results and some very poor results. No pass through hardly no blood to follow. Shot a hog and it peeled like a banana. I went back to slick trick mag this year.

 

[LONG RANGE]

I shot the swackers for two years. I killed a few with them and lost one. It was a bad shot and no pass thru. If they pass thru they where great. If not you get very little blood. They where the most accurate head I have shot.