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Best broadheads for long range and big holes?

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#1 ·
I understand this is subjective and has been talked about since bows were created, but I like to hear people's new opinions sometimes. I have a new Hoyt ventum pro 30. 68# and 468 grain arrow. Shooting exactly 280 fps. I'm a long-time hunter, but new to archery.

I live in Montana and will hunt Elk and mule deer. I go to eastern MT quite a bit for big mulies, so from my experience, a 60 or 70 yard shot might the the closest I can get in certain situations in that country. I have some 125 QAD Exodus already and they seem to fly nice and I've heard great things. I'm not opposed to using a good mechanical either though.

The mechs that have piqued my interest are the Sevr 1.5, Grim Reaper razortip 1 3/8, and the NAP Spitfire. I know a well tuned bow can shoot most broadheads well, but I'm looking for something that is well known for longer accuracy and strong performance. Just trying to narrow it down. Thanks.
 
#3 ·
At the distances you are expecting to be shooting at I'd stay with a solid head. Mechanical heads need IMHO too much energy to open and penetrate. There by limiting your penetration at those distances. A scary sharp 3/4 blade solid head like a snuffer or woodsman, Exodus just to name a couple. I think on a large animal, will give you the best chance at a clean humane harvest. I like two holes in any animal I shoot, an entry and exit. I shoot old 3 blade Magnus snuffer heads and have gone lengthwise through a big buck. Entered high thigh and exited between the front legs. That was from 47 paces and a 70lb bow. I'm not knocking mechanical heads, they have their place. But for what you are doing I'd stick with 1 piece sharp heads. Also good luck on your upcoming hunt, I am green with envy. An out west hunt for those animals is on my bucket list, and the old age clock is ticking.
 
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Yeah that makes sense. Obviously I am NOT planning on long shots. My absolute favorite thing about hunting is the stalk, so I love to get close. But I've hunted in the breaks a lot in Eastern MT and sometimes you have one chance at a trophy and it can be near impossible to get a closer shot. So this is more of a 'just in case' sort of search. If you ever want to hunt mulies let me know. I guided for a long time for those buggers. Fun stuff.
 
#8 ·
Grim reaper hands down. They use very little energy to open and the blades are swept back and don't make a huge hole so they penetrate extremely well for a mechanical head. I have shot my last 2 bulls here in Oregon with the mini-mag broadheads, one at 25 yards, one at 73 yards, both died in about 80-100 yards. When I lived in montana I killed 30+ animals with the 1 3/8" 3 blade grim reapers. I have 100% confidence in those heads.
 
#10 ·
Wow that's awesome! That's a lot of success. My friend who is a long time bow hunter swears by the GR. He said he always comes back to it. That's what got me interested. Good to hear about more success with those. Yeah maybe I should have worded it differently. Not necessarily looking for big holes, just great performance. Thanks for the info!
 
#9 ·
I have zero mechanical BH experience, but wanted to mention there is a broad head forum here, in the "Bowhunter and Bowhunting forum" section. A search in that forum may turn up some real world examples of the heads you're wondering about.
Also, John Lusk does a lot of BH testing and has a ton of youtube videos, he has likely tested the heads you're thinking of as well.
 
#12 ·
Tooth of the Arrow 1" (2" total cut 4 blade) fly superb and leave a nice hole from what I've seen. You could also try the vented XL version. Exodus is a great head as well. I'll be trying the Sevr and TOTA this year (shot two deer with QAD last year).
 
#22 ·
Grim reaper 1 3/8 gets my vote. I’ve put it through elk and mule deer. One muley I poked at 77yds with a 425 gr arrow. Deer heard the bow or the arrow coming and turned to face it. Skewered that deer hard quarter to me. Exited the hip bone. Died in 5 to 10 seconds. So have all the elk I’ve shot with it.
But yeah as was mentioned make sure they are unaware and relaxed when taking longer shots. You never know what may happen. Shot an elk @ 35ish once. It had seen me. Wow! Didn’t know they had whitetail reflexes! That elk whipped around at the shot. Barely caught lung and liver. Still died in under 10 seconds.
 
#23 ·
Grim reaper 1 3/8 gets my vote. I’ve put it through elk and mule deer. One muley I poked at 77yds with a 425 gr arrow. Deer heard the bow or the arrow coming and turned to face it. Skewered that deer hard quarter to me. Exited the hip bone. Died in 5 to 10 seconds. So have all the elk I’ve shot with it.
But yeah as was mentioned make sure they are unaware and relaxed when taking longer shots. You never know what may happen. Shot an elk @ 35ish once. It had seen me. Wow! Didn’t know they had whitetail reflexes! That elk whipped around at the shot. Barely caught lung and liver. Still died in under 10 seconds.
Awesome! That's the kind of real hunting results I was looking for. 77 years with a pass through. Right on. Yeah I wouldn't take a long shot unless I knew they were unaware and I couldn't get any closer. My friend absolutely loves those heads and he kills a lot of elk and mulies. I'm sure all the broadheads I listed have killed lots of animals. Sometimes I hear that rear deploying mechs are better than over the top, but obviously shot placement is what matters anyway. Thanks.
 
#25 ·
I've stacked up quite a few big mulies with the gr 1 3/8" 3 blade. Always had a pass through out to as far as 85 yards. Only one that wasn't was a head on shot at 50 yards and he didn't make it far at all. Will be using the pro series this year.
One shot I took was quite impressive. He was quartering away and had his head down scratching himself on the opposite side with his antlers. He was 41 yards iirc. Broadhead went in the last rib and came out behind his shoulder. It then buried into his head at the base of his antler. It's the only one I've had that actually broke off on the ferrule. The buck went down HARD.
 
#27 ·
I've stacked up quite a few big mulies with the gr 1 3/8" 3 blade. Always had a pass through out to as far as 85 yards. Only one that wasn't was a head on shot at 50 yards and he didn't make it far at all. Will be using the pro series this year.
One shot I took was quite impressive. He was quartering away and had his head down scratching himself on the opposite side with his antlers. He was 41 yards iirc. Broadhead went in the last rib and came out behind his shoulder. It then buried into his head at the base of his antler. It's the only one I've had that actually broke off on the ferrule. The buck went down HARD.
Whoa that's crazy! Talk about rare timing. I'll have to read up on the pro series heads. Thanks
 
#28 ·
70 yards is a loonnngggg shot on an animal, and a lot can happen…. #1 practice/practice/practice…. #2 you‘ve lost a lot of energy by that time…. A solid head would be the best option, if you even feel comfortable making a shot of that distance. I get it, chances at a monster/trophy only come up now and then, but I wouldn’t recommend a shot of that distance with a bow, regardless.
 
#29 ·
I understand this is subjective and has been talked about since bows were created, but I like to hear people's new opinions sometimes. I have a new Hoyt ventum pro 30. 68# and 468 grain arrow. Shooting exactly 280 fps. I'm a long-time hunter, but new to archery.

I live in Montana and will hunt Elk and mule deer. I go to eastern MT quite a bit for big mulies, so from my experience, a 60 or 70 yard shot might the the closest I can get in certain situations in that country. I have some 125 QAD Exodus already and they seem to fly nice and I've heard great things. I'm not opposed to using a good mechanical either though.

The mechs that have piqued my interest are the Sevr 1.5, Grim Reaper razortip 1 3/8, and the NAP Spitfire. I know a well tuned bow can shoot most broadheads well, but I'm looking for something that is well known for longer accuracy and strong performance. Just trying to narrow it down. Thanks.
I'm also from Montana and it's totally within reason to get within 50 yards. My first few seasons my limit was 30. If you're relatively new to archery I highly recommend not over estimating your skill set. I'm not typically a guy to judge but social media and these sites can lead to unrealistic expectations. Shot distances by content creators often are forced to make more content.

I shoot broadheads daily out to 70 and tips well beyond that, shoot 3d etc. I'm very comfortable with my bow, do everything myself and I limit to 55 and in on elk.

Shooting on an animal with a bow is a whole different ball game than target.
 
#34 ·
I'm also from Montana and it's totally within reason to get within 50 yards. My first few seasons my limit was 30. If you're relatively new to archery I highly recommend not over estimating your skill set. I'm not typically a guy to judge but social media and these sites can lead to unrealistic expectations. Shot distances by content creators often are forced to make more content.

I shoot broadheads daily out to 70 and tips well beyond that, shoot 3d etc. I'm very comfortable with my bow, do everything myself and I limit to 55 and in on elk.

Shooting on an animal with a bow is a whole different ball game than target.
Gotcha. That makes a lot of sense. Like I've said, I don't plan on taking a long shot. And I am new to archery, so I plan on getting in close to see how I do in the moment. I have shot plenty of bucks and bulls, but like you said, not up close and personal. I practice a lot, but it'll take time. Hey, I love stalking close anyway. That's my favorite part of hunting. Thanks for the info.
 
#30 ·
The GR 1 3/8 is a great head. I wouldn't go bigger in the GR line up. Shooting a slow 70lb Hoyt I shot a doe hard 1/4 to. The 1 3/8 Reaper entered edge of shoulder exit gut re-entered rear leg broke rear leg and stuck in ground 4". So don't believe be all the garbage about expandables eating k.e. Now the wasp Jak Hammer is actually stronger and has better tip. Plus if you get the select a cut you can go from 1.75" to 1.5" by flipping the washer. You should have no problem pushing a 1.5 - 1.75 " head through a mulie. Dad and brother killed a few bulls with the Reapers upto the WTS and still got exits. Guys I shoot with regularly kill mulies out to 100yds most use QAD.
 
#33 ·
Nice that's awesome that people can do that. I'm good to 70, but 100?! Wow. I don't have any reservations about using a proven mechanical like you have. I'm looking forward to using one. I do like the Exodus though. I'll use both. And I'll check out the Jak Hammer. Thanks.
 
#36 · (Edited)
From MT originally and now in SD. I hunt mulies just across the border and this year am coming home. I switch to a hybrid head this year as wind is such a huge factor in eastern mt and western sd. additionally forgiveness. I am going to use the evolution hyde but I would be comfortable with the grim reaper, and sver. I have a well tuned bow but I am going to bank on extra forgiveness and accuracy in all situations over penetration as I have yet to see that be an issue. You see a lot more guy miss or make a bad shot vs not make it to the lungs due to penetration. Also nothing wrong with fixed heads, I look for a small profile with a decent cut. Hard to beat an exodus on that front.
 
#38 ·
Secondly filter your advice to those who do the type of hunting that you are looking at doing. Lots and lots of "If I was doing a mule deer hunt" means they have no first hand knowledge of what you are asking. Archery talk is full of opinions without experience. If someone asks about a whitetail set up for down south or a hog set up I keep me my shut because I haven't done it.
 
#40 ·
Totally agree and I've already filtered ha. I guided long enough over by Jordan to know how it's going to be. If I had a a dollar for every time I told a hunter to "shoot now or he's gone" I'd have enough money for a trip to Africa. Sometimes you have one chance and it will probably be at 60 or 70 yards. It might not be this year or next, but it'll happen. So that's why I'm looking for a certain broadhead. But yeah so far I'll keep my Exodus and buy some GR pro series 1 3/8 and probably the Sevr 1.5 and see how my bow likes those. I'm always open to other suggestions too.
 
#44 ·
I drew an Elk tag in MT unit 410 this year, I'm going to use the 125 grain GR Micro Hades 4 blade, I don't plan on shooting this far but I've been practicing out to 80 yards with them. They are only 1 1/16" but with four blades they should cut a fairly decent sized hole, and they fly extremely well. I don't think they are better or worse than the Exodus, just whatever you can get to group better. John Lusk did a test on this exact broadhead and it did very well, even shooting it into concrete. Anyway it's another option.
 
#50 ·
It appears the Razortips and maybe others come with a practice head, but not the Pro Series. It does say on the packaging not to shoot them into targets.

I figure if I'm tuned to fixed blades then a mech should fly just as well.
 
#52 ·
I’ve used Tooth of the Arrow XL with great results. I tested them for accuracy out to 80 yards- they fly extremely well. They make a big hole and are super tough because they are machined from one piece of steel. Best of all they are 100% USA made.
 
#53 ·
I'd be using something from magnus if i was you.

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