I use two calls, the older HS Tru Talker and a Mad Buck Hyper Grunt.... The Mad has a grunt that I can call soft with or loud, and the tone is what I want in a grunt, kinda like a click in it, it sounds realistic, and the Tru TAlker I use for Doe Bleats and some buck grunts... I killed my 190lb 139" 8 pt last season using them, and a 187 lb 8 pt 3 seasons ago using those two... Prior to that, I used the True Talker and the Primos Growl/Bawl, however, I could never get soft grunts out of the Primos, it was all or nothing with it, and it took a lot of air(effort), the Mad call, I really like as I dont have to blow as hard when I dont have to, same for the Older Tru Talker.... that "Extinguisher" call is advertised on TV and I dont like the sound of it.. Ive heard deer make about every sound/call they can, and that extinguisher dosnt have that "click" the MAd call does...so, I'm sticking with the older True Talker and the Mad ...