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Well I just got done booking a hunt with Matt at Shiloh Ranch in Ok to go hog hunting. This will be the first out of state/ paid hunt/ hog hunt I have gone on.

I am looking for any pointers anyone who has ever traveled out of state for a hunt?

Any specific Hog hunting tips or anything that might be of vital knowledge for me?

Any specific good reading material that I could read to learn more about hog hunting.

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I take it you will be hunting over bait. If so make sure you are down wind of the bait. Hogs have a great sense of smell.
 

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Coolers

Take plenty of coolers and your thermocell. Hogs also don't seem to offer a good still shot for long,they are always moving even when feeding.
They are not hard to kill and usualy don't go as far as a deer will "if" you get both lungs. Getting through the hide of a hog is just a little tougher than a deer, and the best place to me to poke one is quartering away slightly.
Good luck,let us see some picture when you get back.
 

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I believe he has some bait stations but I am allowed to spot stalk, stand hunt, or anything in between as long as I stay in my area I believe.

I will be taking 2 or 3 120 qt coolers is that enough? We are allowed 1 hog each, and can get a second for 1.50 a lb live weight.

I know that the vitals are fairly low in the hog, and satchmo I have herd that a slightly quartering away was the way to go.

Thanks for your input guys.
 

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Here is the one I was looking at kinda graphic though. What do you think?




HUNTERS ANATOMY OF A FERAL HOG
HEART - LUNG - SPINAL CORD
The heart, lung, and spinal cord anatomy of the feral hog is widely misunderstood.
This article deals with the anatomy of the wild boar. GRAPHIC PHOTOS are used to illustrate the location of the heart, lungs, and spinal cord so hunters can better understand the proper KILL ZONE area.

It is widely understood or rather miss understood that a wild boar is some sort of super armored beast that is almost impossible to kill. Amazing campfire stories are told and repeated of how well placed shots on the beast fail to bring them down. It's not that the animals are so tough, rather, the kill zone is so small!
YEAH YEAH YATTA YATTA,, I know about the ARMOR PLATE,, GET OVER IT,, it aint bullet proof! The so-called ARMOR SHIELD is tough and it can be thick, but despite the ol-wives-tails it is easily penetrated by both bullet and proper broad-head. A .22 Rimfire will consistently penetrate through a 2 inch thick shield of a wild boar. I tested it OVER AND OVER AND OVER,, SO,, all those stories of bullets bouncing off a hog is just bunk. I have killed many large boar with small .224 caliber through the shoulder area,, although I DO NOT recommend the average hunter try it!!

I have seen artistic drawings of HOG ANATOMY and not once have they been correct. At best they were terribly misleading.

The photos below will reveal in GRAPHIC DETAIL, the exact location of the VITALS and will illustrate how small the heart/lung cavity actually is. Also it will illustrate the location of the spine which runs MUCH LOWER through the shoulder section than many hunters may realize!
I also want to point out how far forward the PUANCH or the STOMACH and INTESTINES are actually located. TAKE A CLOSE look at the final photo! You can see the Paunch is all the way up to the lower shoulder and actually rests against the heart. So the popular belief of placing a shot "BEHIND THE SHOULDER" will generally do nothing more than rupture intestines and liver. This shot will leave a mortally wounded hog running for hundreds of yards. The blood trail will usually end at around 100 yards as the entry wound plugs up. Although the hog will die, they are rarely recovered. Then another story is born of the BULLET PROOF beast. FACT REMAINS,, and decent caliber with a decent load placed in the heart, lung, or spinal column will dispatch the biggest boar in very short order. The TRICK is knowing the PROPER KILL ZONE of the wild boar.

Please keep in mind the photos bellow are of a dead hog laying on a flat surface. It makes the top front leg appear to be more forward than it really is,, as if it were slightly quartering away.



PHOTO OF A 70 POUND MALE FERAL PIG



PHOTO OF THE SKINNED HOG!



THIS PHOTO REVEALS THE RIB CAGE AND THE BONED OUT FRONT LEG. THE SHOULDER PLATE IS ERECT AND NOT SLANTED AS MANY ARTISITIC PHOTOS MAY DEPICT IT. THE SHOULDER PLATE AND MUSCLE WILL COVER 85% OR MORE OF THE HEART AND LUNGS ON A STANDING BROADSIDE HOG.



THIS PHOTO ILLUSTRATES THE EXACT PLACEMENT OF THE HEART AND LUNGS AS WELL AS DEPICTING THE LOW DIP IN THE SPINAL COLUMN.
NOTE,, the shot was made with a 220 SWIFT (.224 cal 52grn MATCH HPBT 3,900 FPS Muzzle) into the mid-neck region. The wound channel (disrupted tissue) is clear to see. The spine was severely damaged along with major arteries and veins as well as portions of the lungs. Even though the majority of the "PUMP STATION" was left unbruised the hog fell directly in his tracks. No tracking was needed.




AS YOU CAN SEE THE CAVITY AREA IS ONLY SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE HAND OF MY 13 YR OLD SON, WHO SHOT THE HOG. THE LARGE ARTERIES FROM THE LUNGS AND HEART ARE SEEN PLAINLY IN THE PHOTO.



THE SMALL HEART LUNG CAVITY REVEALED. ALSO ILLUSTRTED IS THE PAUNCH AREA EXTENDING WELL UP TO THE SHOULDER AREA. SO PLACING A SHOT BEHIND THE SHOULDER INTO THE RIB CAGE WILL NOT HIT THE HEART LUNG AREA (PUMP STATION)! SHOTS MUST BE PLACED INTO THE MID SHOULDER REGION OR NECK (neck shot is only for high powered rifles. The most deadly shot with a broad-head is directly at the top of the heart which is directly in line with the shoulder crease (directly over the top of "elbow joint").
 

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I am looking for any pointers anyone who has ever traveled out of state for a hunt?

Any specific Hog hunting tips or anything that might be of vital knowledge for me?
1. Severly quartering away is your best shot. Slip it in 8 inches behind the elbow and exit between the neck and front shoulder. That way you get both lungs and the top of the heart. He will be lucky to make it 50 steps.

Broadside is not a good shot.......period.

2. If hunting over a feeder, don't do anything when you see them coming. Let them eat for at least 15-20 seconds before making a move. Once they start eating they don't notice anything, like standing up or drawing.


3. Severly quartering away is your best shot.......wait for it.


These may help.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqVEy-I8Ms


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www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_27-mZiJkI
 

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Great thanks for those catdaddy!!! Any and all help is much apprciated guys I really want to get this right and bring home some "bacon".
 

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Any specific Hog hunting tips or anything that might be of vital knowledge for me?

Any specific good reading material that I could read to learn more about hog hunting.


Listen to what Matt and Chertl tell you. They are great hosts and want you to shoot a hog. They will tell you how to hunt them.

Good Luck!!!!
 

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Your in for a good time. I have been to Shiloh 6-7 times over the years.
I have also been several other places in Tx. I don't consider myself an expert but I have taken 15 or so hogs in the last 5-6 years.
Shiloh has pre set feeders & stands located throughout the property.
I never do spot & stalk, it just seems to make them more scarce.
Hogs don't hold still long, thats for sure so when you get drawn, WAIT for that broadside or quarter away shot. I disagree on they are not hard to kill-I've bowhunted 53 years now & of ANYTHING I have shot, they are by far the toughest. Deer, Elk, Buffalo, Caribou, Bears, Sheep have fallen to my arrow & I still consider them the toughest-even with a good shot.
Enjoy your hunt-they are great hosts & you will see hogs of every size imaginable.
These are some of my Shiloh hogs & the largest is a Hog/Hound hunt in Tx.
 

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Ya I will most definitely be listening to Matt and Cherl. I just like to learn as much as I can about what I am going to be hunting I figure I owe it to the animal to do that at least.

Thanks for the insite and I will definitely be sitting in one of their stands instead of spot stalk.
 

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You need to shoot a hog further forward and a tad lower than a deer. You need to go straight up 1/3 of body from the center of the front leg for a broadside shot. Consider the back of the elbow as the BACK of the lungs and go from there. What most deer hunters consider a "perfect" shot in the middle of the ribcage is NOTHING but guts on a hog!!! A hog usually does not leave as good of a blood trail as a deer with comparable shots. A hog has ears and nose EVERY bit as good as a deer, but their eyes are not great if you are in a stand.

Good luck...hog hunting is a BLAST

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1. Severly quartering away is your best shot. Slip it in 8 inches behind the elbow and exit between the neck and front shoulder. That way you get both lungs and the top of the heart. He will be lucky to make it 50 steps.

Broadside is not a good shot.......period.

2. If hunting over a feeder, don't do anything when you see them coming. Let them eat for at least 15-20 seconds before making a move. Once they start eating they don't notice anything, like standing up or drawing.


3. Severly quartering away is your best shot.......wait for it.
I completely disagree! Extremely 1/4ing away will increase your chance of only getting 1 lung. If you do that there is a good chance you will not find your hog....they can go days or even weeks on one lung!

I like perfectly broadside shots, real low and tight to the leg. If you hit a little high you will get both lungs. If you hit where you want you will get the heart. If your low you will miss.
 

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Sounds good to me seriously guys this is the place to discuss these things I like understanding as much as possible. Thanks again for the posts guys.
 

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If you're looking at twenty hogs under the feeder, pick one (doesn't matter which one) and wait for your shot! Hogs move like crazy when they're feeding, so picking one out and shooting it can be difficult. You will only have a second or two to shoot before the hog turns again, so pick your hog and be ready. Good luck!
 

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Ok so far I am definitely seeing that people are a fan of a slightly quartering away shot into the lower 1/3 of the shoulder just above the joint area.

I need to basically decide which hog I want keep my eyes on it and be ready to shoot fairly quickly because once the shot presents its self I don't have long to make it happen.

Thanks guys I am slowly getting it here. I have been staring at these diagrams a lot, my biggest fear is bad shot placement so far. I have read how hard hogs are to kill even with a good shot. I am hoping it is not that bad, and that I just read some sketchy info.
 

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I completely disagree! Extremely 1/4ing away will increase your chance of only getting 1 lung. If you do that there is a good chance you will not find your hog....they can go days or even weeks on one lung!

Out of 21 I've killed in the last couple of months, none made it over 60 steps. We'll just have to dissagree on that as well as the broadside shot.



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They always run back the way they came from.....no matter which way they are facing when you shoot. Alot of times it's hard to keep your eye on the one you shot in low light with pigs running everywhich way.
 

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Out of 21 I've killed in the last couple of months, none made it over 60 steps. We'll just have to dissagree on that as well as the broadside shot.
What exactly are we disagreeing on other than the broadside shot?:confused: I have no problem disagreeing with you...I just want to be clear what it is that we are disagreeing on.:wink:

I've only killed 5 hogs with bow. 4 were perfectly broadside and one was slightly 1/4ing away. The latter was 1 lung and heart and ran 150 yds. The other were all double lung and only made it an average of about 30 yds.

I don't think a person will have a problem with either slightly 1/4ing or broadside with good shot placement. It's the severity of the angle that would worry me. On a severe 1/4ing shot(depending on how severe, maybe I'm picturing worse than you are advocating:noidea:) it is much more difficult to get both lungs.
 
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