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#1 ·
What is a bows reflex? Is it really that important?
I like watching all the new bow reviews. One bow reviewer always measures the bows reflex and seems to bash the bow if it has to much. Is there people out there that care about that? If so why?
 
#2 ·
I know there are a lot of folks that like Deflex.... I haven't found one that I could shoot better than Reflex or at the very least closer to neutral/vertical

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#4 ·
It's a pretty catchy phrase right now thanks to a certain mohawked gentleman. I'm not real sure what it means to the average archer. He always bashes bows that are close to 2". He's also a much better archer than I am so I would assume maybe it's something that higher skilled folks notice?
 
#5 ·
Deflex bows will aim a little slower/hold in a spot more so than a reflex bow. I've shot a Supra Focus(2019) for years because of the deflex designed riser. It definitely aims well and holds well but what I've noticed with the new SupraX is that they've taken some deflex away and brought it a little closer to inline with the pivot point of the grip. From what Bodie Turner said, it's helping him aim a little quicker and get back to the middle easier on his bow and he's liking it.

I've seen then trend to coming more inline lately on a couple new models. I think that's a good spot from what I keep hearing.
 
#12 ·
Deflex bows will aim a little slower/hold in a spot more so than a reflex bow. I've shot a Supra Focus(2019) for years because of the deflex designed riser. It definitely aims well and holds well but what I've noticed with the new SupraX is that they've taken some deflex away and brought it a little closer to inline with the pivot point of the grip. From what Bodie Turner said, it's helping him aim a little quicker and get back to the middle easier on his bow and he's liking it.

I've seen then trend to coming more inline lately on a couple new models. I think that's a good spot from what I keep hearing.
Why is PSE even keeping Supra? Dom Duo is vastly superior to it. Shootdown pro is not too shabby itself.
 
#7 ·
In the old days all we had were deflex risers. Then the reflex came along and the speed freak was born. I still prefer a deflex for spot target stuff.
 
#10 · (Edited)
All else equal the higher the reflex the less stable and accurate the bow is going to be. I appreciate that MFJJ measures it as it is one thing among many to consider on a bow. As mentioned, some designs went to high reflex to gain high speed but they sacrifice stability and accuracy to get that speed. Of course all things are not equal so some bows with higher reflex will shoot better for some/most than some other bows with lower reflex. But is a consideration to pay attention to.
 
#11 · (Edited)
The 2000 Hoyt Viper had a reflex of 2.00" and fast for the times, 328 fps. The 2.00" reflex gave the Viper a 5 1/2" brace height. The Viper lasted one year. Today there are bows faster and many can shoot them and shoot them well.

More of reflex was arm slap, not just poor accuracy. Grip a bow properly and arm slap doesn't happen. Bow with draw length too long doesn't help.

I got to shoot the 2000 Mathews Black Max with 5 1/2" bh with IBO of 330 fps. I loved it.

2 of my most accurate bows have bhs of 6 1/4". Placed and won a bunch with both these bows.

In years past, a 7" bh was said the best. I don't agree.

+ 5/8" --------------------------------- - 2.00"

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#13 ·
This is a good post. With all the new bows coming out and people watching podium archerys reviews, him refering to reflex mostly in the sense of torque got me wondering also. Did some reading on here on some old threads that argue that brace height has more an effect on hand torque then riser reflex. To expand on this thread, does anyone agree with BH playing a bigger part in torque then riser reflex? Here is a good read that also has a link posted that leads to another good thread to read. https://www.archerytalk.com/threads/reflex-vs-deflex.1396379/
 
#17 ·
I am also watching his reviews and as someone who can definitely put some torque into a bow at time it has me concerned on the reflex of some of these bows. I love the specs of the elite ethos other than the 2 1/2" of reflex. I currently try shoot a revolt x that has around 1/2". It seems as though the ethos would get me some more speed with a 1/4" more brace height but the amount of reflex has me wondering if it will be less forgiving than the revolt x.
 
#18 ·
Over-utilized analogy due to MFJJ. Forward facing limb pockets were designed with reflex risers to reduce torque. The whole term came from target bows because they historically were deflex or straight risers. I’ve shot all sort of reflex risers in the past 20yrs without issue and have had no loss of accuracy.