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cause of vertical inconsistency

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#1 ·
For the past year or so I've been concentrating on narrowing my groups horizontally, left to right. I've made a lot of progress, but now I need to work on narrowing my groups vertically; the distance in a group between my top and bottom arrow is a lot more than my left-most and right-most arrow. The difference becomes greater as I get more tired. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about things to keep in mind, or things that frequently are causes of this.

I've realized I've been a bit sloppy in how I place my tab on the string. Although the arrow fits almost snug between the nocking points, I have not been paying attention to where the nock is on my tab each time. For example, I have an AAE elite tab, and the metal cutout area is wider than my nock, and I can place the nock in various places within the cut-out. Perhaps the problem is that I may have cut off leather here, in an effort to prevent the leather from contacting the arrow upon release. Lately I've been trying to line the nock up in the same place on the tab each time, but I wondered if other people have a different solution, one that might force the nock into the correct position each time? I thought of building up the metal area with glue, so that the nock could only be in one place, but I'm not convinced that is a good idea.

I also know that I can slip into being lazy about having my hand tight up against my chin (especially when I'm tired), and I try to work on that.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
#2 ·
The culprit in vertical inconsistency is usually arrow creep. Even a tiny bit forward will cause POI changes. Do you use a clicker? If so, check to see that you release consistently at the click. have someone spot you and see if your arrow tips are consistently at the same spot at the shot. The part where you mention being tired is a clue to creeping.
Good luck.
 
#3 ·
I do use a clicker (it's a full OR setup with stabilizers and sight), and I think (but I will definitely pay attention to this) I release consistently at the click; I'll have someone observe this. I improved my horizontal grouping a lot by concentrating on a solid anchor and release. I am trying to also make sure my draw-elbow is at the same elevation each time, since I've wondered if I drop it as I get tired. I also know that variation in my bow arm after the shot can cause problems (such as dropping it, etc.).
 
#5 ·
Finger pressure percentages on drawing hand may also contribute to a vertical spread. I know that as I get to the end of a long session I have to be more mindful of my grip on the string or my fingers are liable to start doing their own thing.
 
#9 ·
My sight can be pretty steady on the target at close range, but once I get out to 50-70m, it floats around a lot. It almost seems as if there is a magnet pulling it down and preventing me from raising it up. I have a fairly high grip, and have wondered if that could be a factor in this. I've played with tiller, and even at 0 the downward drift is still there. I'm going to start paying very close attention to my pressure point, to make sure that is consistent
 
#12 ·
This is most likely a stabilizer issue. Add a little more weight to your side rods or take weight off the long rod. If you have an adjustable v-bar, then you can bring the side rods more parallel with the ground if they are pointed down a bit.

Don't play with your tiller for this, keep the tiller that is most forgiving. Good, a more consistent pressure point will help with vertical grouping and clicker timing.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for all these helpful suggestions. Yesterday I changed my stab setup (more weight on back, less on front), and also put some putty on a spare grip, to see if that will help me be more consistent in my bow hand. I could only shoot at 10m at home, and this weekend plan to shoot it at longer distances to see if this helps.