Yeah...the Python is a great one too! I think the whole line of Summit stands are great.2005Ultramag said:I've posted a dozen or so times that you can't beat the Summit Python for both a bow, and gun stand. The bar on the front goes up for a gun rest during firearm season, and down for a footrest during bow season giving you a full open front stand for bow hunting. It only weighs 22lbs total. Best of all, you can get one from the Cabela's 2005 master catalog for $199.99 The Summit Viper is almost the same stand, but with a wraparound bar on the upper part of the stand, which may make you feel a bit more secure at a hunting height.