They should sell those in 5'syou won't be happy with anything other than lonewolf climbing sticks. I pack 4 on my back wherever I go.
Skip, that's what I was looking for. I just have issues with climbers, can't seem to get comfortable in them. I'm not thrilled with heights, I deal with it, but I like a solid base.
Im with ya tony. I never used to fear anything until i fell nearly 20 feet out of a climber on my head. It was a stupid mistake by me, and I didnt yet strap in :-/. I just cant feel comfy in a climber.