I had an outfitter a while ago. It was ok, not very warm though and it fell apart pretty quick. My dad had the Mac Daddy, 2 sets actually, and they also were not very warm. I've since moved to Sitka and so has he. One option could be to look for some of the older Sitka used. I'm really not to sure what scent blocker runs for now. I really like the cabelas woolimate stuff. My dad has it for coyote hunting seems really warm.
One more thing as well, but Badlands and Sitka offer discounts to military, teachers, cops, and othe government employees. I believe badlands is 50% and Sitka is 40% through Leoadventures.

 

I have a Protec HD set that will be going on its 3rd season this year and is holding up perfectly. It is exactly what you are looking for as far as warmth, but it will pick up thorns and burrs.

Dicks Sporting Goods usually carries the whole Scentblocker line so if you have one close you may be able to try them out.

 

Alpha pro suit is nice. I wear mine in all conditions. Very warm. The protection hd is also a very nice suit. Can't go wrong with either

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Agree. Pick a set up on an eBay auction around 150 for a new set.

 

i assumed scentblocker went out of business several years ago, i remember reading a while back (maybe 2012 or 2013?) that they were taken to court for false claims about their clothing having "scent control" and it was proven to be BS... they lost in court.

 

Lawsuits against both scentlok and scentblocker were dismissed and reversed after it was shown that they actually did work and the plaintiffs were mainly lawyers that were out for money and not actual customers/hunters. I think they had used "experts" who stacked the tests to "prove it doesnt work" by using thousands of times more odor than the human body can produce in a day.

 

I am not really concerned with the scentblocking abilities. I either play the wind or don't worry about it, as a lot of my hunting areas receive constant human activity.

I haven't had bad results with past scentblocker clothing. Always seems to be high quality and very well thought out in the design.

Any one have experience with the matrix suit? Is it as warm as the protec, or alpha?

 

Also the price has kept me from going to other brands.

right now I can get the
alpha for 245
outfitter for 215
Protec for 160

I think I would be lucky to buy just a sitka jacket for the price of jacket and pants in scentblocker.

 

I absolutely love my Outfitter set. You mentioned you liked your old Outfitter set so why not just upgrade to a new set in your size.

That being said, I can only speak towards the Outfitter set as that is the only one I have owned.

I am 5'10, athletic build and wear Medium pants and a Large jacket. The bigger jacket fits perfect but I always wear a few layers underneath it, never the jacket alone.

 

For those that haven't seen this yet...50% off until the 31st...

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4208985

 

I have been using the Protec suit for 4-5 years now and love it. It still looks just about as good as it did when I bought it. Very high quality stuff.

 

Anybody know the temperature ranges for each suit? I need a good 40-60 degree suit

 

I got the Protec HD suit after last season so I have only tried it on and wore the jacket outside for a few minutes when it was cold and windy. It blocked the wind well. Seems well made. I will get to put it the test in a couple of months


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I have the Alpha Pro jacket and its great. It is not insulated but gives good warmth and is fairly water resistant. I love the cinch-down straps so you can order a larger size, layer as needed and keep the extra bulk out of the way. I might grab the pants w/ this sale.

 

I can speak for the Protec set. They're great. Ive worn them with basic base layers down into the mid-low 30's with no issue. Haven't worn them in colder weather so I can't say what they would do. I just picked up another set yesterday because of their sale. I looked hard at the Alpha but for the money difference, felt that it was hard to beat the Protec.

Don't worry about the actual scent blocking abilities. If it helps, great! If not, they still great clothes

 

I'm interested to hear more about the outfitter as well. I really want something wind resistant and warm down the the teens. To me the outfitter series looked like what I want with the windshear vest and outer shell. I could be wrong tho.


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I can't comment on outerwear but I have both top and bottoms of their S3 Arctic Wt. Baselayer and it's super nice.

 

Alpha

I spent a long time (years) looking for a jacket catering to bowhunters without luck. Finally found the Alpha and love it. Fleece is very quiet, sheds rain really well, and is warm. I don't have much problems with burrs, but I don't hunt around them much. The silence and water shedding capability outweighs the burr issue for me. Also, the offset zipper is awesome - I hate having a zipper under my chin - this solves that. Has straps on the chest to pull back slack fabric, hole behind your neck(under hood) for the harness to slip out, clips on the inside to attach a tree spider harness. Removable arm guard. The chest pockets are easily accessible and have a bungee with carabiner so you don't drop your range finder/binos if they are in that pocket. Also the hood has straps to adjust it so it's not falling down in your face and blocking your view. I haven't found anything I didn't like about it, other than I like sitka camo patterns better. Of course, I couldn't shell out the money for Sitka gear. As far as warmth, I can wear it early season comfortably - but only if I carry it in, if I wear it in, I get too sweaty. Have sat out in pretty cold, snowy, November hunts in PA and been comfortable with the right layering - wouldn't be warm enough with jacket alone that late in the season. I don't own the pants... but I will in a few days, as I just took advantage of the big sale. Been wearing Scentlok perfect panel pants, which are also a really nice pair of pants.

I should add that I didn't buy it to block scent, and won't speak for or against that. While I do believe scentblocker/scentlok/etc. help, none are 100% effective. I bought it because of the design. I'm fairly careful about the wind and my camo only comes out of it's bag/tote in the woods. My wear base layers and wash jeans and hoodie just to travel in, then swap jeans and hoodie for outter layers at my hunting spot. Rarely get winded.... that I can tell...

 

Alpha. The other two you mention will not be anywhere close to warm enough for what you are wanting. I have the alpha suit in Iowa and couldn't the happier with it for my normal rut hunting in November. It's not a real fluffy fleece so it's not too bad catching burrs either


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Im in the same boat.

-Hunting Iowa
-mid October through mid November(I have Cabelas Stand Hunter bibs for when its really cold)
-wind proof
-temps around 30-60 degrees


I have pretty much narrowed it down to the Aplha, Protec HD, and Matrix. It sounds like the Matrix set has a softshell exterior and is meant more for early to mid season, but it is burr resistant... Alpha and Protec HD seem comparable, while the Protec is significantly cheaper. However the Protec has a windproof liner, which is noisier than the newer windbrake technology used in the Alpha...

 

Any opinions on the Matrix?

 

Thanks for all the replies. I still can't decide 100% but I am going to make my decision soon.
I was able to try on the outfitter, Don't really like how bulky it is, but i am sure with that bulkiness comes warmth. I have to go up to a x large to fit because of the insulated vest in it. The other jackets would be doable in a large, but I will probably go xlarge to be safe.

I also tried on the protec and wasn't too impressed with the fleece material atleast with my initial opinion. I imagine it will be full of burrs, and stickers.

No other ones were available to try on locally. Athough there was a dreamseason silent shell, which seemed a lot like what I imagine the matrix would be. I really liked the construction of it, wasn't very warm though. And worst of all I don't see it on scentblockers website so it won't be in the 50% off sale.

The matrix has my curiosity, I am just unsure of it's warmth. I wish scentblocker advertised better.

 

That's kind of where I'm at. Their website doesn't have any real info on just how warm or what season or what temperatures their suits are intended for. It basically says that everything is just "warm". Kinda frustrating...


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I ended up ordering the matrix. Figure it will be great alone for early season, and be able to layer it until mid season. Late season I will switch to something else if its not warm enough.

I didn't like the bulkiness of the outfitter set, and didn't want the fleece sets to be full of burrs all the time. I have only owned fleece once or twice and couldn't stand all the burrs getting stuck in it.

The matrix seems to be a happy medium, not bulky, wont catch burrs, and should be pretty warm and block the wind.

 

I don't know if you've seen this yet, but ScentLok actually sued Scentblocker in federal court for false advertising and won.

https://www.scentlok.com/federal-lawsuit/

 

Not too worried about it, not buying for the scent capabilities or the lack of. Buying because I myself have had good luck with the clothes being made with high quality and with the bowhunters needs in mind. Not saying its the best out there, but for half price I don't see much that can beat it.

I don't want to start a scent control argument, but how can we really believe that carbon is going to work either? I understand from a microscopic level the carbon has tons of small pores to absorb odor. And I can see how it would work great in certain situations. Clothing however doesn't seem to be one of those situations. As soon as that carbon comes into contact with any odor (odor is everywhere) then the pores begin to clog. And how on earth could you keep them from clogging before you get to the stand. It just seems crazy to me to think that carbon in the clothes has a long enough life to depend on it. Under perfect circumstances yes, but not under most hunters routine.

 

Looks like Scentblocker redid their website. I emailed them and suggested that they organized their clothing by season (early, mid, late). Seems like they took my advice!


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