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Correct bow arm position?

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#1 ·
After struggling some weeks for finding out what is the best position for your bow arm, i still dont know yet.

What do you guys think?

1- Bow arm straight and pull backtension.
2- Bow arm little bit bend and press bow forward and pull back backtension.
3- Bow arm little bit bend and pull backtension.

I use for now the second one, but not still sure what is right.
 
#4 ·
Your arm should be 99% extended, not bent.
Rotate your hand and set your shoulder down.
 
#6 ·
This has been covered a bunch in the past. Anyway, most - if not all - of the top shooters shoot with a straight arm, even if it doesn't look straight in pictures. Bone on bone, period. I watched a video of the only pro archer that seems to matter to the AT general population say how he shoots straight arm with a bone to bone form. Watching him shoot though I could see how some could think that his arm is bent some. Please don't confuse straight with hyper-extension.
The debate on "push-pull" execution versus static front end is another animal all together. That will rage on forever. Good luck.
 
#11 ·
To use a visual and have a way of determining where to start out with bow arm, I like what John Dudley teaches. Standing up straight and extending both arms out to your side level with your shoulders. Stand next to a wall with you bow hand and put the hand against the wall and put slight pressure into the wall by leaning into it just slightly. Helps you see the arm doesn't need to be locked out but you can feel and find the bone to bone contact from palm, wrist, elbow, and shoulder.
 
#19 ·
SOLID advice.
Good starting point for a healthy shooter.

Folks with medical issues...need to find someone...a coach
who can help find a work around
whether we are talking arthritis
partially frozen shoulder or elbow
plate and screws in bow wrist
Scoliosis with a minor curve
surgically frozen bow wrist
all kinds of special cases.
 
#13 ·
I shot with a straight bow arm with a little back tension.Ive never slapped my arm once since I started archery.My local shops tells people to bend the elbow a little bit,so you don't hit your arm.To me that method isn't reapetable,so I don't do it.However,there's alot of people at the shop that bend their elbow and shoot lights out.
 
#14 ·
Grip and Front Arm
This is the basic grip that I see on all pro shooters and the grip that I feel is the best way to attach yourself to the bow:

To begin we are going to discuss what touches the bow and what does not touch the bow, your thumb muscle and your thumb and your index finger are the only three things allowed to touch the bow. You are going to put your knuckles at a 45 degree angle and this will move the palm and love lines out of the way. Then you index finger should be touching the front of the riser, the other three fingers are curled up and very lightly touching the palm. They should not be stretched out or stiff and by curling them and lightly touching the palm they will be nice and relaxed.

This is the neutral front arm position that will really give you a solid feel when at anchor and allow you to produce some wicked good float:

Reach out in front of yourself and put your knuckles at a 45 degree angle, now try and point your elbow down towards the floor and keep the knuckles at the 45 degree angle. This will make your arm very stiff and it will move your arm into the strings path which are two bad things, now still keeping the knuckles at the 45 degree angle turn your elbow straight out to the side and again it will feel horrible but now the arm will look really bent and your shoulder will try to stick out to the side and the deltoids try and raise up. Again all of this is really bad. Now put your elbow in between at the 45 degree angle position and again put the knuckles at the 45 degree position and now things should feel nice, this combination of the knuckles and elbow does many things. It allows your arm to be straight but moves your arm away from the string, it keeps your arm straight but gives the perception of it being bent, it lets your arm stay nice and low.

Now that we have your arm and grip at the right angles you are ready to feel the something new, we are going to treat our front arm as a broom stick and when we come to full draw we are going to allow the broom stick to push back into the front shoulder socket. This is a feeling that most people don't ever feel because they are pushing forward into the grip lengthening their system which our human body has the ability to do and this is bad, you want the bow to push your arm back into the shoulder socket and this is where the really strong float starts happening.

The last thing I want to cover in this article is the pressure you feel in your grip, put your arm out in front of you and get the hand cocked back and in the grip position and then follow your arm bone forward into your hand and look at where it hits the thumb muscle. It comes through on the lower half of the thumb muscle towards the bottom about a half inch up nowhere near the thumb joints. This is where you want most of the bow pressure to be, you do not want to have the pressure going into the top half of the thumb muscle. where the skin goes across to the index knuckle. In the past I was warned about healing the bow and I have always stayed away from pressure on the lower half of my grip but that was back when people had their entire palm on the bow, now that we have only our thumb muscle on the bow it is a non issue. I personally like to have a relatively neutral amount of pressure on my entire thumb muscle with a little extra on the lower half, as long as I am not pushing the top half into the grip of the bow I am happy.

Socket Man
 
#17 ·
Ron is so correct on not needing the poundage, I finally let go of shooting 70 lbs a few years ago and I am so glad that I did. I could pull a maxed out bow easily for a while but now I can shoot my 60 pound bow all day long and I really mean all day, there are times I will go into the shop and shoot indoor non stop for 5 hours and then go home and shoot outside for a while and then end up shooting again before dark.
 
#18 ·
SLAP tear in one shoulder
Or
prior shoulder separation
or
rotator cuff damage-pre surgery
or
post surgery repaired shoulder
Or
busted collar bone one side.

Sooo many reasons cookie solutions do not work.

Does your bow elbow hyper extend...commonly called double jointed?

Level arrow when at full draw.
is top of bow hand thumb at same height as TOP of shoulder?
If no...LEARN HOW TO do this.

Level arrow at full draw.
Take photo.

Is bow upper arm pointing downhill frim shoulder to elbow?

If yes
LEARN HOW to make bow upper arm PARALLEL to arrow.
Parallel bow upper arm to arrow
you will shoot better...more stable...for AVERAGE JOE humans.

Do some Pro Shooters have downhill bow upper arm with
level arrow?

ABSOLUTELY.

IF downhill bow upper arm with level arrow works for
current and past champion PRO SHOOTER
then if YOU use downhill bow upper arm
will YOU be next PRO SHOOTER world champion?

Highly unlikely.

Soooo if YOU copy how world champion holds bow upper arm
and you do not become next PRO SHOOTER world champion

Common Sense says you must
try something different
maybe try bow upper arm position
that gives YOU better results.
 
#25 ·
My elbows are double joined and hurt like a SOB if I try to lock them at full draw. I gotta bend my arm or it hurts too bad to shoot.