Well here a hunting tale that will maybe help someone out there! As some of you know I have a back injury that is inoperable and the dr told me not to use my climber stand this year...said it would allow my back to heal some!...so my son wanting to help dear old dad out...put me up a 15 foot ladder stand at my prime location a week before season...being busy I did not get a chance to play with it....so wed a.m. I hunted it just fine ...no problems but didn't see a thing...so wed p.m. I noticed that I had creak when I stood up or moved and decided its too late too do anything about it now so I decided to just hunt it that afternoon and then either fix it or move another stand in...after 2 hours in it ...I was standing with bow in hand and was looking around...and what did I see at my 2 o'clock? A nice 10 point buck with appx 20" spread!( antlers extended appx 2'' to each side of ears) ...I never heard him come in....so we stared at one another...both frozen in time for about 5 minutes... he finally started wagging his tail and feeling comfortable...(since I had my snakeskin camo on I guess he decided I was just a big ole snake in the tree)...well here is where it gets good....he turned to move to my 12 o'clock behind some cover and my stand creaked loudly...well we know the rest of the story...he must have been a half a mile away before he quit blowing...then I looked and here comes a doe my way...we she got to 20 ysds I drew and just then the stand creaked again!!! Murphy where were you??? No more hunting on that stand till I get it fixed! I didn't get a deer but had a sucessful hunt just getting to see them....At least I got the plaque flushed out of the arteries... anyway Good luck to the rest of you!!