[Hbowhunter]

Where I hunt there’s a lot of sage so I just grab some sage on my way out and apply it generously. I’ll keep a couple branches with me for wherever I decide to hangout for that hunt

 

[Bigmike23]

Cool story. No, really. How deep into Spike's jock did you dig for that response? You do realize the DOJ filing is public record, right? You do also realize this company would beheld liable by the DOJ if they released public information regarding the DOJ that was false, right?

If you took the time to read the information on their site and/or had watched the video in the link, you would've seen/heard the reference of a 3rd part university study supporting thier research and claims and you would've seen how the product works. It's not rocket science either. It's basic physiology. If your olfactory epithelium were to be numbed, you wouldn't be able to detect the smell of apple pie if someone slammed your face in it.

But again, Scent Thief has provided all of the supporting information you and your boy Spike said wasn't provided so it's clear there is zero chance of either of you two having an objective open minded conversation about this. I don't work for them and I damn sure don't need to prove/validate anything I say or do to either of your two so go ahead and make your condescending comments and insults and continue on with your deflections and continued calls for "proof" when you're not interested in anything that differs from your narrative. The information is out there for anyone and everyone to see. Do with it what you will, if anything at all. ✌

I most certainly did listen to the video. They simply state "the university". What University? Wheres the research paper? What were the conditions of the experiment? What animals were included in the experiment? Sounds like a dog was one.
I'm willing to take ANY legal advantage I can if it gives me an advantage over a mature buck. ANY. Name it I'll take it if it works. Im interested. I may email the company asking to see the actual research papers. They're probably as real as the cookie monster, but I may be surprised yet. This is not sarcasm.
Then they state in the video, they had to tame the product down so dogs can properly smell drugs. If the dog can still smell drugs, you can bet and take it to the bank a buck will still smell you

 

[Kilmore]

"Ill pay $1,000 to anyone that provides me with an experience, fooling a dogs nose, using any scent control you can come up with." Bitch in Heat urine with a splash of red cayenne on a piece of T shirt ended a tracking dogs day more than one time. Did a study at the tracking school I worked at.

 

[NCMFX]

Don’t think it works at all. I buy one bottle a year, if it helps even a little it’s worth the $12 or whatever but I don’t kid myself and think it does much if anything. Used to think spraying it on bottom of boots might help leaving ground scent.

well last season I got out of my truck, sprayed rubber boots down liberally with scent killer and walked to stand. little doe comes across the field, gets to woods edge where I walked in and totally locks up when she gets to my path, nose to the ground, gets really nervous, changes course and dives off the hill with tail up. If she caught me then a big buck knows every step we take in the woods if he crosses our path. No scent spray covers this up.

 

[archer8030]

I most certainly did listen to the video. They simply state "the university". What University? Wheres the research paper? What were the conditions of the experiment? What animals were included in the experiment? Sounds like a dog was one.
I'm willing to take ANY legal advantage I can if it gives me an advantage over a mature buck. ANY. Name it I'll take it if it works. Im interested. I may email the company asking to see the actual research papers. They're probably as real as the cookie monster, but I may be surprised yet. This is not sarcasm.
Then they state in the video, they had to tame the product down so dogs can properly smell drugs. If the dog can still smell drugs, you can bet and take it to the bank a buck will still smell you

It's no secret you're not interested in an objective dialogue on this topic. You had your mind made up on this topic before you made your first post, let alone any post you've made specifically about Scent Thief. Buy it, don't buy it. Use it, don't use it. Believe it, don't believe it. It's really no sweat off my back one way or the other but you act like someone is trying to force you to do something you don't want to do.

Here's a thought for you and your boy Spike, instead of coming here and hijacking OP's thread (like you have) and providing absolutely ZERO constructive content, go start your own thread about how any and every scent control product is a scam, a gimmick and just plain snake oil. Neither of you are here to help OP or be constructive in any way. You're here to bitch, complain, insult and be condescending to any opinion that differs from yours on the topic. In other words, both of you are here for nothing more than being trolls. The title of the topic clearly states what the thread is about. Clearly you two are not proponents or users of scent control products so why ever bother to participate? Oh yeah, it was to just be trolls. Congratulations on your originality.

We're done here. ✌

 

[Beendare]

Its sad really.
There are many tests where this stuff has been proven not to work….but there are still hunters that continue to throw money away on it.

Yeah, its a free country…their money and all that…but its sad to think there are so many people in the US that are easily fooled.

 

[toddcbrown]

I spray Scent Killer Gold on my boots and wash my clothes with it. I tend to wash my bath towel, wash cloth, and underwear as a first load to get cross over from previous loads. I line dry all of it to avoid drier cross over from previous loads. I have rarely had deer wind me. But I don't kid myself. This is really more about using an abundance of caution. If a deer walks through my scent stream I am expecting a behavioral change.
My scent goal is to not smell human or new. My experience says that the deer I encounter are not so much concerned with scents, but more concerned with new or human scent. I just want to not smell "human".

 

[archer8030]

Its sad really.
There are many tests where this stuff has been proven not to work….but there are still hunters that continue to throw money away on it.

Yeah, its a free country…their money and all that…but its sad to think there are so many people in the US that are easily fooled.

And yet there are just as many tests out there that show it does work. Which tests one chooses to believe is based solely on their subjective views on the matter. If you're a person that doesn't believe scent control products work, you'll ignore any tests showing support for their claims and instead focus on any tests that may debunk their claims and vice versa.

It's equally as sad to think there are so many people out there that believe anything and everything being sold is a scam. I couldn't imagine living with such delusion and paranoia.

 

[spike camp]

"Ill pay $1,000 to anyone that provides me with an experience, fooling a dogs nose, using any scent control you can come up with." Bitch in Heat urine with a splash of red cayenne on a piece of T shirt ended a tracking dogs day more than one time. Did a study at the tracking school I worked at.

Again, altering the animal, isn’t scent control.

8030 wouldn’t agree, though.
He probably just shoots them in the face, and calls it future scent control lol!

 

[toddcbrown]

And yet there are just as many tests out there that show it does work. Which tests one chooses to believe is based solely on their subjective views on the matter. If you're a person that doesn't believe scent control products work, you'll ignore any tests showing support for their claims and instead focus on any tests that may debunk their claims and vice versa.

It's equally as sad to think there are so many people out there that believe anything and everything being sold is a scam. I couldn't imagine living with such delusion and paranoia.

Not to wax to philosophical, but that is the world we live in today. Too much data and not enough real information. I can make a solid argument for using these products and not, heavy or light arrows, mechanical or fixed, single or double bevel, FOC or who cares. All of this data is really more confusion than help these days.

You have gotta go with what you find and let it go...

 

[archer8030]

Again, altering the animal, isn’t scent control.

8030 wouldn’t agree, though.
He probably just shoots them in the face, and calls it future scent control lol!

"Altering the animal" I'm truly beginning to believe you ARE a liberal politician.

I'm pretty sure it's the same deer after as it was before but yeah... "altering the animal"... If I temporarily "alter" your ability to smell, I haven't altered who you are or what you are. You'd be the same troll you were before and after. You just couldn't identify specific scents temporarily.

Like I said, I'm not going to hold you to your word, which obviously isn't worth a plug nickel anyway, and let you off the hook for the $1000 so you can drop the theatrics and you can quit spinning and twisting your words to deflect away from you originally said. We all see who you are and non one was shocked or surprised.

 

[TailChaser]

I spray my boots inside and out. Better off to just make sure you don’t step in diesel at the pumps etc. cause I sure can’t see any difference. Rubber boots…sprayed down….doesn’t matter.

I use Unscented soap/gel (Walmart brand). What does make a big difference is whether you showered right before the hunt, or sweated walking in makes some diff but usually 2 hours later. It matters more than if your soap is scented IMO. Shower twice a day if you want to make a real difference. And learn when scent rises or falls. Don’t hunt a still evening without fresh shower, you’ll be snorted at by the first one.

 

[archer8030]

And learn when scent rises or falls.

^^^THIS^^^

Thermals will get you busted quicker than the wrong wind will. Too many hunters only focus on wind direction but understanding how thermals work and applying that to the area you're hunting is far more important, in my opinion. If I'm hunting a ridge top in the evening that's requires a west wind, a 5-10 mph west wind won't keep my scent from being pulled down into the bottom as temps drop in the evening so while I think I'm good because I have the wind in my face, the thermals are actually working against me. Understanding thermals is paramount.

 

[BigDeer]

Love thermals in the morning, you can get away with a lot more

 

[.1015915]

Neither..because both won’t help you in any way, whatsoever.

Your scent isn’t on your clothes.
It emits from gases expelled from your body and bacteria laden skin cells that slough off your body by the millions.

No amount of spritzing, will impact your core scent, in any appreciable way.

Finally, somebody else with some dang common sense

 

[.1015915]

I believe these sprays and even the videos I've seen with a deer downwind of a hunter not seeming to care about the hunters scent is a scam. I've been straight upwind of deer on public, like 20 to 30 yards away and they have no issue with it. It's because they're used to humans being there ALL THE TIME. Walking dogs, hiking, fishing, etc. I could make the same dang video and it would NOT be possible because of some spray bottle

 

[.1015915]

You saying deer don’t like cheese burgers?

I think some deer actually might like a good cheeseburger. Have you seen the videos of deer eating steak? Or even baby birds out of nests, etc

 

[.1015915]

I think some deer actually might like a good cheeseburger. Have you seen the videos of deer eating steak? Or even baby birds out of nests, etc

If even deer can't pass up a good steak, how the heck do these liberal vegans do it? They must be closet steak eaters

 

[spike camp]

"Altering the animal" I'm truly beginning to believe you ARE a liberal politician.

I'm pretty sure it's the same deer after as it was before but yeah... "altering the animal"... If I temporarily "alter" your ability to smell, I haven't altered who you are or what you are. You'd be the same troll you were before and after. You just couldn't identify specific scents temporarily.

Like I said, I'm not going to hold you to your word, which obviously isn't worth a plug nickel anyway, and let you off the hook for the $1000 so you can drop the theatrics and you can quit spinning and twisting your words to deflect away from you originally said. We all see who you are and non one was shocked or surprised.

Yes, alter.
You’re altering the animals senses.
Just like the deer in headlights syndrome.
Same before and after, but not at the moment.
They’re altered, at that moment.

If you shove Cayenne up a deers nose, you’ll alter its senses.
Just like if I blasted you in the face with pepper spray, your breathing, vision, and other senses will be altered.
You’d be the same delightful individual before and after I empty an XXL can of extra, super spicy mace in your face, but you’d be severely altered.
I’d gladly demonstrate this for you…

My $1000 offer still stands, to anyone not hung up on semantics, or any other of 8030’s shortcomings.

Use any and all commercially available ‘scent control’ products.
Heck, I’ll even pitch in to help cover the cost.
I’ll fly to your location, and watch as the dog tries to find you.
We can set up multiple scenarios, however you wish.
If you beat the dogs nose…10 fresh Benjamins and I’ll treat your family to dinner at the restaurant of your choice.

 

[Daddymac]

I have had this discussion with some of the scent control haters and this is the question they will not answer, what can you smell the furtherst away a sewer plant or a single fart?
I am trying to be the fart.

Anyone that believes that scent reducers make you invsible to a deers nose is an idiot, and anyone that believes they don't do anything at all is likewise an idiot.
I am willing to bet that even the scent control naysayers don't wear their hunting clothes and boots to the diesel pump, so they do believe in some form of scent control.

I choose my stand location without fail based on the wind direction, I also try to be the fart by using scent reducers, and yes; many are proven by science, to keep my scent signature as small as I can, I don't want to be the sewer plant.