[badguybuster]

I ordered 6 of the 200 grain Overkill XXLs from Grizzlystik but only received 3, no big deal things happen. I contacted them and they sent replacements. Yay! Then, I get to looking at the broadheads I received. the box says 200 grain XXL but they were considerably smaller than my original Silverflame xxls. So, I weighed them......they are 125 grain! Im glad hunting season is still a few weeks away but dang! Thats some crap. I hope they will make it right but havent gotten a response yet.

They are supposed to be 200 grains and 1.81" wide.

 

[Rookhawk]

Can’t speak to the overkill’s, but the Samurai broadheads they make are absolute trash. They curled over on my son (shooting 40lbs) on an impala. Absolutely terrible steel, weak penetration due to curling. Never again for me.

Lusk Archery did a test of an Iron Will single bevel retaining most of its edge after being shot into a concrete block. Best penetration of everything he tested. Great steel. We switched.

 

[zhickman]

What's your setup for the XXL? How much vane are you running as well?

 

[Longbow_7]

Can’t speak to the overkill’s, but the Samurai broadheads they make are absolute trash. They curled over on my son (shooting 40lbs) on an impala. Absolutely terrible steel, weak penetration due to curling. Never again for me.

Lusk Archery did a test of an Iron Will single bevel retaining most of its edge after being shot into a concrete block. Best penetration of everything he tested. Great steel. We switched.

Yep 440c steel sucks. Especially for the price they charge. Especially given that you can get iron will, tuffhead, cutthroat for the same price.

 

[Rookhawk]

Yep 440c steel sucks. Especially for the price they charge. Especially given that you can get iron will, tuffhead, cutthroat for the same price.

I asked 3Rivers for a return on them as soon as ONE broadhead proved to be trash quality. I had 5 unused in package. They blew me off for 60 days, said no promises, etc. Long story longer, they said they couldnt’ get Grizzly to take them back and didn’t want to eat the costs. I had to file a claim with my CC that 3rivers wouldn’t accept a return. The last day before CC was going to give me full money back, 3Rivers returned my money minus shipping and 20% restocking fee.

This isn’t a damning condemnation of 3Rivers as much as it is a testament to the bad service and support for a dealer expressed by Grizzlysticks. You can’t run all over the world trading on Ashby’s reputation and make a terrible product.

It wasn’t even my money. It was my 9 year old’s money. How long does it take a 9 year old to make $200 honestly? A very, very long time. He did so because he needed absolute flawless penetration to big game hunt. We found them vastly inferior to even the $35 three pack of Magnus stingers, certainly not worth 3x that price point.

 

[hoyt fo life555]

Yep 440c steel sucks. Especially for the price they charge. Especially given that you can get iron will, tuffhead, cutthroat for the same price.

So you can get iron wills for 59.00 for 3 heads ? The over kills even the 1 7/8” are 59.00 for 3 heads. Not defending these heads, I do have some but have not killed with them yet. And I have iron wills and they costed me a LOT more then these.

 

[Rookhawk]

So you can get iron wills for 59.00 for 3 heads ? The over kills even the 1 7/8” are 59.00 for 3 heads. Not defending these heads, I do have some but have not killed with them yet. And I have iron wills and they costed me a LOT more then these.

The sting of low quality will linger long after the glow of money saved dissipates. Or however that saying goes.

You’ll regret using junky expensive broadheads, especially since you’ve already bought iron wills and experienced what exceptional broadheads are like.

 

[badguybuster]

I had good success with the regular silverflame xxls but wanted to try these. I guess we will see how it shaked out

 

[ebayollis]

I asked 3Rivers for a return on them as soon as ONE broadhead proved to be trash quality. I had 5 unused in package. They blew me off for 60 days, said no promises, etc. Long story longer, they said they couldnt’ get Grizzly to take them back and didn’t want to eat the costs. I had to file a claim with my CC that 3rivers wouldn’t accept a return. The last day before CC was going to give me full money back, 3Rivers returned my money minus shipping and 20% restocking fee.

This isn’t a damning condemnation of 3Rivers as much as it is a testament to the bad service and support for a dealer expressed by Grizzlysticks. You can’t run all over the world trading on Ashby’s reputation and make a terrible product.

It wasn’t even my money. It was my 9 year old’s money. How long does it take a 9 year old to make $200 honestly? A very, very long time. He did so because he needed absolute flawless penetration to big game hunt. We found them vastly inferior to even the $35 three pack of Magnus stingers, certainly not worth 3x that price point.

Not trying to be rude in any way but why pay that much for broadheads when you could use the magnus stingers? Plus they have an unconditional lifetime warranty. Just curious. Hope you get everything figured out by hunting season

 

[df06]

Different BH, but I used the Ashby 300, I believe made by Grizzly Stick. Three of three of them broke when shot into African animals.

 

[0HnoNotAgain256]

That's why I ended up going with Day Six Evo X's in 150.. I called three rivers and asked Them about Grizzlystiks over Iron Wills and Day6 and they recommended me to go with IW or Day6!!! In my mind I immediately thought, "you guys are on Grizzlystiks website!!! And don't even recommend their products!!" Glad I went the route I did..

 

[Longbow_7]

So you can get iron wills for 59.00 for 3 heads ? The over kills even the 1 7/8” are 59.00 for 3 heads. Not defending these heads, I do have some but have not killed with them yet. And I have iron wills and they costed me a LOT more then these.

I was talking about the standard ones that are $99.99 (still made out or 440c). At the $59 dollar price range you can get cutthroats, vpa, or magnus for less.

 

[Rookhawk]

Not trying to be rude in any way but why pay that much for broadheads when you could use the magnus stingers? Plus they have an unconditional lifetime warranty. Just curious. Hope you get everything figured out by hunting season

no, it’s a reasonable question.

the answer is because Magnus stingers aren’t very good broadheads just like Chick Fil A isn’t good cuisine.

Is Chick Fil A better than BK, McD, KFC, TB? Yes, by a million miles. Is it better than a 3 star Michelin restaurant? Heck no.

Is Magnus stinger better than every other broadhead in the cabelas aisle? Yes. Is it a mediocre broadhead inferior to many other options such as IW, VPA, Kudu, Alien, and dozens other? Yes.

If you’re broke and need to eat or hunt, I recommend Chick Fil A and Magnus. If you can afford better, please do better for yourself.

 

[badguybuster]

 

[Beendare]

Seems like Grizzstick is up to their old tricks again....how does that outfit stay in business?

Some guys on your Bowsite thread complaining about Grizzleystick too....

 

[Beendare]

Is Magnus stinger better than every other broadhead in the cabelas aisle? Yes. Is it a mediocre broadhead inferior to many other options such as IW, VPA, Kudu, Alien, and dozens other? Yes.

Ugh, no.

The problem with your comparison is there are outfits selling a $40 BH that is not as good as the Magnus...or even the $5 German Jaegers. How many of these heads have failed....I've never seen one. [I've seen one where the screw was loose and the blade twisted but is that the heads fault?} How can you say that a head 10x more is better?

What I'm saying is the design on those heads is so good, a guy doesn't need super steel in them. I use these heads and can attest to that. My blades are razor sharp though every animal....I can spend 10x more for a BH....but it doesn't perform any better.

Ask df06 above what he and many others paid for the Ashby heads from Grizzlystick----they were like $50 a piece and they were garbage. I know of many that got screwed on those...and on $10,000 + buff hunts. That really sucks.

Grizzstick bought the rights to the Silver Flames- arguably one of the best heads ever made and then built them with lesser steel. Thats a dick move, IMO.

One can't compare Grizzstick to a Michelin restaurant. If you get a bad steak at a good restaurant...they fall all over themself to please you. ...not Grizzlystick according to many inc the OP.

OP, please be fair and inform us if Grizzstick comes through.

 

[badguybuster]

Actually spoke with them today. They apologized profusely and then upgraded my replacements from the Overkill line to the Silverflame line with is almost double the cost. Thats pretty fine by me

 

[grander]

I've had success with the 150 grain Silver Flames several years ago. I may go back to them.. They don't rust and held up better than my Iron Will 125 wides.

 

[Rookhawk]

Ugh, no.

The problem with your comparison is there are outfits selling a $40 BH that is not as good as the Magnus...or even the $5 German Jaegers. How many of these heads have failed....I've never seen one. [I've seen one where the screw was loose and the blade twisted but is that the heads fault?} How can you say that a head 10x more is better?

What I'm saying is the design on those heads is so good, a guy doesn't need super steel in them. I use these heads and can attest to that. My blades are razor sharp though every animal....I can spend 10x more for a BH....but it doesn't perform any better.

Ask df06 above what he and many others paid for the Ashby heads from Grizzlystick----they were like $50 a piece and they were garbage. I know of many that got screwed on those...and on $10,000 + buff hunts. That really sucks.

Grizzstick bought the rights to the Silver Flames- arguably one of the best heads ever made and then built them with lesser steel. Thats a dick move, IMO.

One can't compare Grizzstick to a Michelin restaurant. If you get a bad steak at a good restaurant...they fall all over themself to please you. ...not Grizzlystick according to many inc the OP.

OP, please be fair and inform us if Grizzstick comes through.

Specific to your Magnus Stinter comments. I’ve used them. I own them now. My son has used them. They are what they are, which is a pretty decent grown up deer broadhead. I’ve asked them if they’d make a single bevel and they say “we’ve tested and single bevels aren’t better”. I asked for the data, they said “we’ve been in business 30 years, trust us”. As a fan of the Reagan doctrine, I believe in “trust, but verify”. I understand the benefits of single bevels, I also understand the forces applied to a single bevel require much better steel because of the mechanical advantage. I do not believe a magnus stinger is a better broadhead than an Iron Will 150gr single bevel. My son has killed game with stingers including his first deer and turkey, he has killed African game with grizzly samurai, and we are now getting him ready with 150gr Iron Will single bevels for a bear hunt. For his low poundage I like the advantages of single bevels and I very much like the durability tests Lusk Archery did launching IWs into concrete blocks, 56 sheets of cardboard, steel plate, and ballistics gel. It gives me great confidence that the steel the IWs are using doesn’t curl when faced with concrete or metal. I think for the additional $100-$200 we spent as a family it will result in a marginal shot someday resulting in a recovered animal. I don’t believe a magnus stinger is built to that level of quality because there isn’t enough room in the product at its MSRP to cover the costs of titanium and the better tool steels.

I don’t have to hate Magnus Stingers to say I believe there are better things out there for more money that have demonstrable improvements in penetration and bone breaking abilities. I didn’t care for Magnus Stinger telling me that none of the things I care about matter or actually make a difference rather than just saying the honest “this is the best broadhead anyone can make for $40 a pack” which is a truer statement.

 

[Archer478]

Grizzlystik in my opinion is the one of the few companies in the industry I do not like. I have had nothing but complaints from my customers on regards of their customer service. I also had several go to africa with their single bevels and broke nearly every last one on the tip. Been sending guys over their that will listen with Exodus, Iron Will Buff (non single bevel head!!!), and GK.