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Don’t sleep on the standard 100 grain Muzzy! Who shoots this old school head?

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#1 ·
When I dragged in from the road tonight I did my regular routine/ritual shooting my bow. I have her dialed in right now and am re-testing a lighter spine arrow with appropriate weight in the tip. Flew like a dart, and that’s when I learned about these Muzzy heads. Had not shot them on a arrow tuned right

Nothing I have messed with shoots flatter or penetrates my foam targets better than the Muzzy 100 grains 3 blades. Old school aluminum ferrule ones. It’s like the thin blades levitate the arrow when it should be dropping like a rock. They hate the wind though, otherwise I would have a quiver full of nothing but Muzzy 100 grains.

I put them on my heaviest arrows (630 grains total weight with this setup) and established my 30 yards holds with a 20 yard point on zero and I’m liking it. Tested them on a lighter arrow, maybe 460-470 grains altogether with a luminock, and the furthest I have tested so far was 45 yards because that’s all the space I’ve got. This arrow is about a 32-33 yard point zero with the same sight settings and a rage Trypan or a field point, and a about a 5-6” hold over at 40 yards.

The funny thing is they don’t hit as high on the target at 20 yards as the Trypan or a field point.

So the heaviest arrows in my quiver will have the muzzy 100 grains on them from now on.
 
#2 ·
I’ve killed plenty of deer with them before the more modern heads came along. I shot a buck in time with those thin blades you speak of. It looks like you took a pair of channel locks and mashed all the blades to the ferul. There are way better choices these days even though they killed a bunch of deer.
 
#5 ·
I still shoot Muzzy three blades in 125 grains out of one of my recurves. They work great. If the ferrule or blades are not bent they can be used again. The blades sharpen up very nice with the flat file. Light strokes, with an equal number of strokes per side of each blade. I can get a three blade Muzzy, hair popping sharp in two minutes.

I have enough pre feradyne, Muzzy heads to last the rest of my life. (47 complete heads). They hit the market in 1984 and were a great head until feradyne bought the company in 2009. The design is still the same, but the quality control is not near what it used to be.

John Mussacia Jr, the son of the Muzzy broadheads inventor, is now producing broadheads. He makes a head called the Mussacia NBS in 100 grain, three and four blade versions/These are also great heads. You dont need super heavy arrows out of a compound. I shoot 500 grain arrows out a of 46 pound recurve and get two holes on deer and pigs.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Man that is awesome! I just looked up mussacia broadheads. I like how they list their materials, hardness, etc. 7075 T6 aluminum ferrules are probably stronger than the steel in my hypodermics. 51 rc blade hardness. You don’t get those kind of features for $36/3 pack in any other head.

Muzzy does not list materials specifications or hardness but I can tell you for certain that MY muzzy trocar tips are not 42 rc and MY muzzy blades are not 51 RC. But they are still durable enough to get buried and the dirt and be shot again.
 
#7 ·
I have 4 that I bought 20 years ago when I first wanted to get into bowhunting. Life happened and never got to go hunting or pursue the sport. Got back into last year and I still have all four and they have never been shot. I am committed to the Exodus for this season but looking forward to playing around with them.
 
#8 ·
I started shooting 4 blade 1" muzzys 20 years ago when bow tuning was more of an art than science. That low profile 1" head flew considerably better than any other head I tried (and I tried a bunch). The Bear Razorhead was second best.

When K-Mart went out of business they had a whole rack of them in 6 packs on clearance for almost free they were so cheap. I cleaned them out. 😁

I never had a single problem or complaint shooting them at deer and wouldn't hesitate to shoot another with them.
These are the only two left from that purchase. They're the heads that get to ride shotgun in the quiver if I'm running low on Exodus.

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#9 ·
I'm still shooting them. A shot through rib-bone might mean a slightly damaged blade or two, but nothing to worry about -- still an easy pass-through.

Upon installation, and after each shot at deer, I do the spin test (palm of hand test for vibration, and on an arrow spinner). Any broadhead better be dead center, but the Muzzy aluminum ferrule does seem vulnerable to a bend. If off-center, with gloves and a vice I can usually get them to behave.

They do penetrate well, and yes touching up the razors makes me feel better about shooting them. Because I have quite a few, I question whether I want to spend the extra on some of the better heads out there. Dunno - they get the job done.
 
#11 ·
Pretty much all I’ve killed deer with is a 3 blade muzzy. Some 100 grain and my last 3 kills 125 grain. My two deer so far from this season went less than 100 yards combined. Sharpen them up a little out of the package and they are wicked. At most maybe a tweaked blade after going through the deer and into the dirt. I like the 125s better than the 100s.
 
#12 ·
I feel like I should change the name of the thread. I tried to tune my bow today with muzzy 3 blades and ran out of vertical adjustment before I could get them close to field points. This is after bare shaft tuning, I guess I should have known. I put on another one and that one flew above my field point group. This was with the 630-655 grain (depending on broadhead weight) arrow @ about 19% FOC.

I tried again with the 560-590 grain set up and it was even worse.

I have tested both the 125 grain and the 100 grain. I can not tune my bow with these. There are a couple of each that plane their own way pretty consistently. There are also a couple that fly pretty good.

They are useable inside 20 yards, but why settle for that? I want my rig to be more capable than I am, not less.

Slick Trick saved the day. I had 125 grain field points and 125 grain Slick Tricks grouping together at 40 yards in 4 small adjustments to my arrow rest. Did not have to boost my arrow weight or FOC, either. I love the micro drive whisker biscuit. Micro drive is the way to go with arrow rests.

Verified with 100 grain mechanicals, 125 grain slick tricks, and 125 grain field points. I am good to 45 yards, 5 arrows inside a 3” square on the target at 45 yards.

I hate that I had to spend the day dealing with this. But I am going to slip out to a nearby spot for an evening sit. Dragging my daughter out for good luck :)
 
#14 ·
Well if I can say one good thing about them, every single one is very, very sharp right out of the package. I only gave them the “spin test” by hand. I think if I gave them a proper spin test, tweaked if needed, and slowed them way down I might see better results. I planned to turn my backup bow down to 50 pounds in case I get hurt, might as well see if I can get them to tune. It will make a fun project after deer season.
 
#15 · (Edited)
I have shot several deer with them. The last buck i shot was quartering away, arrow went through front of chest and out through side of neck cutting jugular. Was a blood bath. Only deer I ever tracked by the blood spray about 6 feet up in trees. Did not have to look on the ground at all.
 
#18 ·
Still shooting 100gr slick trick mags and standard. Great wound channels and strong enough to punch through bone if need be. Buddy of mine still shoots the broad heads you a referring to and loves them. For me, for now gonna be slick tricks for the foreseeable future.
 
#19 ·
Only killed one deer with a Muzzy and that was over 20 years ago. It was the first time I ever saw an arrow pass through a deer and the deer walk off like nothing happened only to drop seconds later! Broadhead was in perfect shape after that.
 
#20 ·
When I dragged in from the road tonight I did my regular routine/ritual shooting my bow. I have her dialed in right now and am re-testing a lighter spine arrow with appropriate weight in the tip. Flew like a dart, and that’s when I learned about these Muzzy heads. Had not shot them on a arrow tuned right

Nothing I have messed with shoots flatter or penetrates my foam targets better than the Muzzy 100 grains 3 blades. Old school aluminum ferrule ones. It’s like the thin blades levitate the arrow when it should be dropping like a rock. They hate the wind though, otherwise I would have a quiver full of nothing but Muzzy 100 grains.

I put them on my heaviest arrows (630 grains total weight with this setup) and established my 30 yards holds with a 20 yard point on zero and I’m liking it. Tested them on a lighter arrow, maybe 460-470 grains altogether with a luminock, and the furthest I have tested so far was 45 yards because that’s all the space I’ve got. This arrow is about a 32-33 yard point zero with the same sight settings and a rage Trypan or a field point, and a about a 5-6” hold over at 40 yards.

The funny thing is they don’t hit as high on the target at 20 yards as the Trypan or a field point.

So the heaviest arrows in my quiver will have the muzzy 100 grains on them from now on.
You can still get em. The dude changed the name but not the formula.
 
#21 ·
Muzzy for life! I still shoot them. 100gr 3blade, Tocar tip. Only thing 1 may have to do with them is clock them to fletch so they impact same as field points! But I do use feathers! The higher profile helps steer them!
 
#22 ·
Find thread Muzzy giveaway tonight last person to post @ 2100 wins a 3 pack! Thanks to BTJ !
 
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#25 ·
4bl 100 still a great head, I mostly shoot iron will now, but have shot muzzys since the 80s,
I’ve shot a lot of other heads, always back to 4bl muzzy, I’ve never had the trouble with them that others have mentioned, like spinning true, they always spin true, there sharp out of the box, an .020 blades are strong an slice like razors, I’ve broken more blades on other heads that are twice as thick, plus 6 for $35.00 good deal.