i bought some Black Max Elite and a G5 ASD on the weekend. Finally, I was able to try these new arrows last night after spending 1/2 day of building these arrow and making sure that they are all square using the G5 ASD. I did a quick walk back tunning to make sure my bow is set up correctly. After that, I put on some Muzzy 3 blades 100g broadheads on the arrows. I was able to shoot 4 inches groups at 50 meters. I think these high quality arrows and the G5 ASD did the right job for me !!! Open up your wallet and spend some money on the good equipments !!:wink: