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Easton 5.0 hand grenade.

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#1 ·
I wanted to give this some time before I posted something like this but I’m honestly let down. I chose to move away from gold tip and invest into Easton to support my friends that made the move as well that shoot professionally for the company as of now.

Strike one: I nock tune arrows regardless of what the manufacturer claims. I had one 5.0 that tore through paper differently and no matter how much I messed with it, it just wouldn’t nock tune. I had a feeling to flex it and it went boom, right there in my garage. I contacted Easton and they sent me a warranty dozen claiming that there was a production issue. So I moved on thinking things are big bucks and sunshine.

strike two: I’m at TAC today and I was next up to shoot and out of habit now I flex every arrow before I shoot. It happened again. I was stumped. So I stop by the Easton booth and show them what happened, the head of production guy.. or whatever I can’t remember his title, but it was higher up..approached me and basically talked to me like I have no clue what I’m talking about and told me I’m flexing my shafts wrong and that the 5.0 was his baby and that he’s put them through cinder blocks with no issue. In a nut shell I was told I need to be more ginger with how I flex the shafts and that this was my fault. Even though I didn’t make any bad shots and send these into the earth or fallen timber or anything remotely close to what I would think to cause this issue. I’ve shot gold tip and victory and black eagle and never had an issue flexing them. If I’m correct another warranty dozen is on the way

strike three: fellow hunting buddy was shooting a course with his friend and also was shooting the 5.0 and 4 of his shafts showed signs of cracking and splitting in the carbon after a day of center punching foam.

it’s a great shaft tolerance wise and they spin good, they are a little finicky to nock tune but they are extremely fragile. I would not recommend these to my peers. Be warned.

as of now I’m considering going back to victory’s rips or maybe back to gold tip. Any thoughts on that? What hit insert/collar do you guys like to run with your rips if you shoot them?
 
#4 ·
I flexed one in the shop for a guy to show him why I recomend an all carbon arrow over FMJs... (I keep a bent FMJ for demonstration purposes) Then took the 5.0, expecting it to flex just like an axis or any gold tip... Scared the hell out of me when it exploded in 7 different pieces after barely flexing it. Needless to say, the guy bought the FMJs. They are definitely what I would consider "Fragile".
 
#17 ·
What spine are you shooting? Curious if that has anything to do with it

I’ve been Runnin 250 spine 5.0s since they came out and haven’t broken any flexing or shooting animals…I’ve put half a dozen thru pigs with no breaks, one of them has been thru 2-3 pigs by itself

that’s the only dozen I’ve had though so if it’s hit or miss I might have just got a lucky batch
 
#19 ·
I shot 5mm Easton Axis for several years, then switched to 6mm with a progression of Axis/Aftermath/Hexx/Sonic. Never had issues like what has been reported a few times about the 5.0, but they definitely need to rework them for durability. That Easton exec is playing CYA and not thinking of the potential injury and resulting legal action that will likely follow. Especially with a savvy lawyer doing online research for corroborating discussions such as this one. Bummer to hear that Easton has yet to deal with this dangerous issue... 🤷‍♂️
 
#20 ·
Light and durable don't really go together. I haven't seen any issues with the arrow for what it is. It's not an Axis, FMJ, RIP TKO, etc. Expect the performance of any other light GPI arrow. For TAC events I'd say it's about perfect.
 
#23 ·
Easton 5.0 300 spine 8.4 GPI
BEA Rampage 300 Spine 8.7 GPI
GT AirStrike 300 spine 8.5 GPI
GT Black Label 300 spine 8.3 GPI
Victory Rip TKO 300 spine 8.8 GPI
Victory HLR 300 spine 8.1 GPI
Victory RIP XV 300 spine 7.1 GPI
Victory RIP 300 spine 8.8 GPI
Sirius Gemini 300 spine 8.65 GPI

Those are all the lighter 5mm/.204 ID arrows I could think of off the top of my head.

I know the RIP XV is considered fairly fragile and it's the lightest by far.

But after that I haven't heard about durability issues from any other shaft (HLR being fairly new with little time) other than I've heard mixed results on the Rampages.

Maybe wall thickness would be a better comparisons than GPI though.
 
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#25 ·
I love Easton! The 5mm Axis are one of the toughest arrows on the market. It’s only seem logical they would have to give up something to achieve the light gpi of the 5.0
Stiffer carbon material with less resin would seem to be a recipe for a brittle arrow.
I hope they figure it out.
I have no problem with my 10.7gpi Axis 300. They are tough and fly amazing
 
#33 · (Edited)
The last sentence changes drastically if you have a question mark or period at the end? Did you mean to put a period?

Anyway I used Easton forever and went to GT because I got tried of them changes models slightly, discontinuing models, adding too many models to the point you could never trust if your arrow would be around 2 seasons later. I shot 2315's for probably 25 years so I wasn't use to buying and changing for $hits and giggles. Being the new kid on the block with the new series arrow every year means nothing too me. What does is knowing once I find an arrow I like it won't be gone soon.

I would rather buy American 100% even if it costs a little more if the quality is the same or better but I'm not going to if the marketing director or whoever isn't thinking clearly. Easton needs to get back in the game rather than rest on their reputation IMO or try to make money changing lines every year. Make one good series that works and don't monkey with it. Geez it's pretty simple......call it your legacy series or whatever but just make a great series and leave it alone. I shouldn't have to tell them that.....it's like they are out of touch with bowhunters especially. Hey if you do decided to make a killing doing that Easton at least throw me a bone since I know more than your marketing team does............lol.

Monkey around with others lines for the people that need new models every season but make a standard OD simple tough arrow for hunters that we KNOW will be around for a while.
 
#28 · (Edited)
Good info guys. Saved some of us time/money. I’ve shot almost the entire GT line and no complaints here.

I’ve recently switched to Easton and have enjoyed thier target shafts. I will say the Eastons seem to crack easier but X10 PTs and GT Tours are not comparable shafts. However, the sonics and the GT ultralight/Velocity are very close (8.8 Gpi, similar diameter). They both are a great shafts and equally durable. I think the carbon technology isn’t quite advanced enough for such a thin walled arrow to also be durable enough for our expectations.

I hope Easton will improve the 5.0 durability, would be perfect for my wife’s bow.
 
#29 ·
The Victory HLR is of similiar specs as the 5.0. Ive been using them for a few months now. Zero durability issues so far. I always flex all carbon shafts before a shooting session but really never thought about if I was doing it right...lol. Im using the Ethics adjustable HIT (full length) with end cap. 65grs in a 350 spine.
 
#30 ·
I called Easton about this. They recommended hit with collar for insert, they also said yes they are more fragile than axis and your going to compromise strength for a lighter arrow, recommended more for open country. It won’t last on most pass throughs if it hits tree, rock etc. It solidified my thoughts and concerns, I’ll stick with the Sonics and axis. Love Easton arrows but they dropped the ball on these 5.0’s.
 
#34 ·
This is the industry working for the profit of the industry. The axis 5mm is the goat of hunting arrows in my opinion. But you have to keep people 'tinkering' despite having no actual complaints about the arrow that just works. Might be Rip TKOs for you. Might be gold tip hunters. Point is, there are a handful of arrows that have been proven over and over and over again. And people have to have lighter or newer despite what theyve seen with their own eyes.

So many threads where a guy says "i have no complaints about the arrow I shoot now, but want to try __." That should be your clue.

Theres no reason for me to ever go away from axis 5mm. Ive shot the others. None of them are overall better than the axis 5mm.

Its not specific to arrows. Broadheads are even worse. "I have used the exodus for years and theyve worked flawlessly, but I want to try __." Whatever you use, isnt going to improve upon flawlessly.

Go shoot.
 
#35 ·
I got 24 (400 spine 5.0) of them when they came out. I’ve had 0 issues that weren’t my own fault, bad shoot, Robin Hood, hit the walls past the local club targets. I have pulled them from the dirt and out of soft deadfall, no breaks. I flex every arrow every time it shoot because of these stories and never snapped one like that. I too nock tune each arrow but all went well. IMO these aren’t hunting arrows though and should be treated as TAC or 3D arrows. I’m a waiting on my bad arrow in the bunch but it hasn’t happened yet
 
#36 ·
I’ve never had any luck with easton besides the axis. I bought 6.5s those exploded the same way I was at a local 3D event and I started noticing cracks, the 6.0s they were okay but you miss a shot and man those things explode. Also nock tuning is a nightmare! I’m going to try out the Altra .204s next and see what this no spine tech is all about. If it’s true then that time being spent nock tuning for days will just get me outside shooting. I’m done with trying lighter shafts because that just tells me brittle and I can’t see spending the money to have them blow up like that. Was actually going to give the 5.0s a try but when I saw the GPI I went those things are not durable and shooting at TAC and hunting especially you need something you can depend on.