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I’ve shot the axis 260 for several years now. The last two years I’ve taken a few deer with some rip TKO 250s. Probably close to 50 deer/elk kills wiIth the axis. I can remember one arrow that has broken. 4 deer with the rip tko and 2 have broken. Both are great arrows in their own way. In terms of durability and strength on the 260 axis versus 250 rip TKO, I don’t think it’s even close at that spine. My axis will go on every elk trip. Both setups with 50 g hit inserts and iron wheel collars.

Love the idea of something in between the two though. I still like the rip tko for deer and goats. The axis 260 vs tko 250 though is apples to oranges.
I used to shoot Victory arrows but found them to be brittle and not durable. So, I've been using Easton arrows exclusively for the last few years and really like how they perform.
 
These are definitely a needed upgrade. Looks like the match grade will come with more of a half out. Would have loved to see a hardened hit and collar
 
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These are definitely a needed upgrade. Looks like the match grade will come with more of a half out. Would have loved to see a hardened hit and collar
MG says hit and MG collar are included. Material of the HIT is irrelevant as the point aligns to the front edge of the shaft/impact collar. Because there’s almost no length to bend on the collar, they might be fine being aluminum, but if they bend, steel collar should fix it. I’ll rather use the saved weight to potentially move into heavier BH.
 
I’m not a fan of an arrow brand, but it’s copying because they make a 5mm in similar GPI? Victory has been in that market for years. Easton, around 2 decades ish with the axis?
Victory came about because of an old Goldtip manufacturing facility that wasnt being used anymore and yes the Axis is the oldest .204 out there but Goldtip has had the Airstrike for 6+ year that is 8.3gpi in a 300 spine and the Quantum is an Airstrike but a .0025 not a .001 straightness.

Also Easton copird the color off Goldtip's .204 arrows

Everybody freaking out about how great the new Easton & the new Victory arrow is gonna be but it's a copy of the Goldtip Airstrike&Quantum. Everyone been saying that they wished Easton made a lighter Axis but the fact is Goldtip has been making it for 6+ years! Goldtip also makes the Kinetic Kaos which is heavier than the Axis but lighter than the FMJ
 
I was using axis then tried axis long range then sonics. I don’t think I’ll buy anything other than sonics. You cant beat standard inserts. Hit and collars are nice but suck pulling from bag targets. Shafts with just hits and no collars suck on hard impact so back to standard inserts I went.
Sonic’s and the inserts are cheap and effective. If you want more weight, brass is an option at 50 or 70 grains.
im always trying new things but find myself going back to basics. They just work.
 
MG says hit and MG collar are included. Material of the HIT is irrelevant as the point aligns to the front edge of the shaft/impact collar. Because there’s almost no length to bend on the collar, they might be fine being aluminum, but if they bend, steel collar should fix it. I’ll rather use the saved weight to potentially move into heavier BH.
I must have miss read. This was the photo I was going off of.
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I must have miss read. This was the photo I was going off of. View attachment 8205331
I believe they launched there Match Grade Half Outs for the 5mm, they had them for 4mm. From all the media I have seen, my understanding the match grade come with the HIT Insert and Collar and the normal will just be the HIT insert.
 
I believe they launched there Match Grade Half Outs for the 5mm, they had them for 4mm. From all the media I have seen, my understanding the match grade come with the HIT Insert and Collar and the normal will just be the HIT insert.
I'm super interested in those match grade half outs. I loved them in the long ranges.

This is going to really be the all around arrow. Given durability is up to par and they're not $200+ a half dozen. Easton may have knocked it out of the park here
 
I can’t seem to find these on their website…, only the 4mm version. I may have to try these out!!!

Here you go bro!
 
which insert would you choose?

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which insert would you choose?

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Hit and an iron will collar. I’ve messed around with a lot of different set ups, and these are by far the most durable. I haven’t noticed any difference on using the 50 grain brass hits from Easton or the iron will steel hits.

I’m 31.5” draw and shoot anywhere from 79-84lbs. I haven’t found a half out that won’t eventually bend at some point.
 
Sirius does make a decent product but, something about not being able to buy them at the local store whenever you need to doesn't sit well with me.
I haven’t been able to buy anything lately at a local store…. Seems like every Archery manufacturer is slacking!! Arrows; Broadheads; etc
 
It's hunting season ... 1, lots of people start buying because of the season and 2, they want to unload all the inventory that could be discontinued. Shops are starting to order 2025 items to get them in stock. New bows, new arrows, etc.

Shops that are smart are preordering as much of these 5.0s as possible because they are going to sell like crazy
 
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