Been using Gt ultra light pros for some time now. Very consistent well made arrow. Shooting mainly for 3D with my speed bows they preform perfectly. Maximizing speed for shooting 52#s and my 27"dl. You will not be disappointed.


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Thanks, do you know what speed you get to with your carbon defiant and those arrows?

 

Pretty consistent with my 5 bows around 305fps. My arrow comes in around 305g.


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Thanks

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Easton LightSpeed3D and Gold Tip UltraLight Pros are the two arrows I've been shooting outdoor for Field and 3D for the last year. I ended up selling all my Gold Tips because of two issues.

1) I prefer to use hot melt glue to install points so I can change/replace/salvage components, and I found the Gold Tips much less tolerant to heat. In fact I destroyed several of the UltraLights using the exact same process I've used for years to install components in the Easton carbons. I even switched to a lower temp hot melt and started using a heat gun instead of a flame to try to use the least heat possible, and I still damaged some of the GT's simply trying to install points. I do realize that GT does not recommend hot melt glue, but that's still my preference and I never had any bad experience with Easton Carbon and hot melt, so that influences my decision.

2) I had two consecutive bad experiences with brand new Gold Tips being far out of advertised tolerance The first was that after only one day, about half of the brand new .001 straightness shafts had turned into .003 shafts, and the 2nd was when a brand new factory "matched" dozen raw shafts contained both 400 and 500 spine shafts with exactly the same label. According to Gold Tip support, "somehow" a 35/55 Hunter shaft must have gotten mixed in with the UltraLight Pros. Thanks, but no thanks. I paid a "premium" price for their "premium" shafts, so I expect that they wont randomly be selling me mislabeled "hunter" grade shafts with a "Pro" label that indicates the wrong spine. (see video below)

 

I pretty much agree with this. I have shot both in the past.

Gold Tips tolerances are, or were, horrible. Easton are American made as well.

 

Something uncommon to happen. And yes not kind to heat. For 10 bucks an arrow heat is not an option


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Something uncommon to happen.

Maybe.

How many people that buy Gold Tips actually spine test them to see if the spine matches the label? "Maybe" I was just unlucky, and I got the "one" shaft out of thousand that was mislabeled, or maybe there are other people out there shooting mislabeled Gold Tips that have no idea? The mislabeled shaft weighted the same within the advertised tolerance, it had exactly the same diameter, and it was just as straight as all the others, so there is absolutely no way a person without a spine tester could have known that arrow was not the same as the rest. (except that it probably wouldn't group with the others). There probably isn't 1 person in 1000 that actually spine tests new arrows, so the odds of that one person being the only person to get a mislabeled shaft is fairly low.... not impossible, but low.

Either way, LightSpeeds and UltraLight Pro's are essentially exactly the same shaft manufactured by different companies. They have the same diameter, same weight, are available in the same spine, and can even share components. I never found one shaft to perform better than the other, so I made the same decision any reasonable person would have made if they had "trouble" with one brand, and not the other.

BTW, I did make Gold Tip aware of the situation, and they requested to have the shaft returned to them for testing. I never heard any more about the cause, or whether they made any changes to quality control.

 

Hey you know something you have convinced me to try some. I have been close, but now with spec's listed by you Going to by a dozen. Just to lazy to check for my self. You sound very knowledgeable I am using 400's gt arrows, what Lightspeed would you recommend. As I said lazy.
Please let me know when not busy
Doug


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Hey you know something you have convinced me to try some. I have been close, but now with spec's listed by you Going to by a dozen. Just to lazy to check for my self. You sound very knowledgeable I am using 400's gt arrows, what Lightspeed would you recommend. As I said lazy.
Please let me know when not busy
Dougk

Easton Lightspeeds come in two flavors Lightspeed (+/- .003) and Lightspeed 3D (+/- .001) just as Gold Tip UltraLights have two options, regular UltraLights (+/- .003) and UltraLight Pro (+/- .001). They are similarly priced, with the higher tolerance "3D" and "Pro" models being ~ $40 more per dozen. If you're happy with your UltraLights, there's really no reason to change, they really are remarkably similar. There was even a time when I was carrying them both in my quiver and shooting them interchangeably (using Easton CB points and nock bushing in both).

LightSpeeds are only available in 340, 400, and 500 spine. UltraLights come in 300, 340, 400, 500, and 600 spine.
Regular LightSpeeds (+/- .003) have a blue label, LightSpeed3D (+/- .001) have orange decals.

To be clear, there is no difference between the .003 and the .001 models for either brand other than the sorting, They all roll out of the same machines. The straightest ones get kicked into a different bin, get a different label, and a bigger price tag, and that's it. In the case of Gold Tip, they sort them 3 ways .006, .003, and .001. The .006 arrows are sold as "Velocity" hunting shafts. The .003 shafts receive either Velocity XT label, or UltraLight label, and the .001 get either the Velocity Pro, or UltraLight Pro label. Again, there is no difference between Gold Tip Velocity shafts and GT UltraLight shafts other than the label, and the Velocity's are packaged with UltaLight nocks, where the Ultralight shafts include GTO nocks. It's actually pretty clever marketing by Gold Tip in particular, they only have to make one shaft and label it 5 different ways to appeal to a wide range of consumers.

 

theyre both good. The standard grade GT is the best value. The difference between .001 and .005 is the difference between busting G nocks and dinging bushings at 80 yds+

 

Thanks I'm look in


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Thank you all for the feedback guys, much appriciated. I think I'll go with the brand that I know best and that is Easton.

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I am interested in this

 

I shoot the light speed 500's. The cheaper .003 straightness. I cut from both ends and use press in nocks. I'm shooting around 51 lbs, 26.5" draw with a 27" arrow, with 100 grain nibb points. They are very durable and accurate. I've Robin hooded several at 40 yds over the past few years.

 

Does anybody know what the diameter of these arrows are? Are the as big as fat boys?

 

Nope. These are more of a standard hunting arrow diameter.

 

Thanks good to know


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