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I think they're fair depending on terrain & game numbers. I've seen areas in Texas so thick that you'd never see a deer or hog without a feeder. And places in Jersey that there are so many deer that "culling" the herd as quickly and efficiently as possible is absolutely mandatory for the good of the ecosystem, other animals, fauna, the herd itself, etc, etc. I've also seen clubs baiting like crazy where it's illegal, and pulling the deer or waterfowl off all the surrounding hunting areas ... which certainly isn't fair. As far as food plots go ... my general thoughts are that; I think they go to support a larger herd and a healthier herd because they take non-deer supporting land and turn it into ideal deer supporting land. So ... ethics should be flexibly applied in my opinion.
 

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bluetick cooner said:
what are your ideas and feeling on food plots and feeders. i dot think it is too fair.
In my opinion this isn't about ethics. Some might say chasing raccoons with dogs is unethical. What are your feelings on that subject?

Your feelings, disguised here as ethics, are obviously different from mine and I suspect from several others here. I don't hunt food plots, nor do I hunt over feeders. That doesn't work where I hunt. However, if it's legal where you hunt then I see nothing wrong with it. If that is your method of hunting then who am I to tell you it "isn't fair"? Or because I don't believe in it it is "unethical."

You hunt your way and let others hunt their way. As long as it is legal you have no "ethical" soapbox to stand on.
 

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******* wanker name, blank profile..... just trying to stir the pot. There are some good threads on this forum, try joining them! :rolleyes: :mad:

I see any of those mentioned as a method to be more selective in harvest and aid in quality management of a herd. Wether it be to harvest a designated number of antlerless animals to tighten and strenghten sex ratios or waiting for a mature buck, they could allow the hunter just a few more seconds to make educated choices on whhat animal to take.

We won't even get into the dog chasing crap! :rolleyes:
 

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Ignorance is a terrible thing.You come here and try to make villians of folks that plant food plots.I plant them to keep deer on the place I lease.I plant summer and fall,at great expense.Nothing is finer that to sit 30 yds from a plot and watch does and fawns eat and play.Planting plots ensures that the deer have enough to eat and stay healthy.If you had any knowledge of the subject you'd know that big bucks rarely visit plots during daylight hours.
Planting plots is hard work,that becomes a labor of love.It is addicting,trial and error and can be very dissappointing.You can spend hundreds to plant and fertilize only to have drought kill them or bugs eat them up.I work alot harder at my hunting than you do,you only pic a spot and sit.To me thats unethicial since YOU could be doing MORE!How does that feel?You hunt your way and I'll hunt mine.By the way I've never killed a Buck in any plot I've planted.
 

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I plant a food plot for one simple reason. My neighbor will start spreading corn at 5 PM every day. He usually starts this early in september. I only have 27 acres and I am trying to give myself a little edge. Anything that will help hold the deer here and not across the road is a good thing in my view. I think what he is doing is unethical. He also does the same thing in the spring when the turkeys start to show up.

The deer bed on my place and then everyday run across the road like they hear a dinner bell. What fun is that? I am only trying to even the odds a little bit. If I can provide food and security to the deer, then maybe they will actually ignore the neighbor and his corn.
 

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Hey bluetick,

A landowner/hunter invests tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars in land, maintains it, pays taxes on it, pays $$ in interest on it then invests thousands in equipment, seed, water, fertilizer, weed killer and countless hours of labor and sweat to have something to be proud of. To have something to hand down to their children and grandchildren! Then some fellow "hunter" has the audacity, arrogance and NERVE to say "that's not right", "you're just trying to grow trophies", etc. It's just stupid. Let me let you in on a little information: Food plots aren't magic fairy dust that grows an extra inch of antler for each bite the buck takes of it. Food plots do more for the antlerless population than anything. Doe health increases, fawn mortality goes down, overall deer body-weight goes up. Sometimes it takes YEARS to see the benefit. Those with work ethic, dedication and foresight are the ones that reap the rewards.

You anti-management guys are so stinkin' jealous and you don't realize how transparent it is. You profess your "pure" hunting methods of sitting near a crop field or near a mast-producing tree and don't realize that you're doing the same hunting as pro-management food-plot guys. The only difference is that the pro-management guys are taking a proactive approach to hunting instead of a "crossed-fingers, wait and see" mentality. We actually get off our butts and DO something instead of whining about the state DNR.
 

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bluetick cooner said:
what are your ideas and feeling on food plots and feeders. i dot think it is too fair.
The Mo. dept of conservation puts out food plots on almost all of their conservation areas. In Mo. we are not allowed to hunt over bait, and I'm ok with that. The only time I'm not ok with it, is when somebody does this illegally. The you can question somebodys ethics and morals.

But this subject is not about ethics. I think it's about personal choice, and if you chose to hunt over food plots or feeders or if you don't that is your choice.

Everybody has an opinion, your is, you don't think is fair, and thats ok. I personally am ok with it. But I also think you have just opened up a can of worms. Remember everybody has an opinion, and I'm sure that your gonna hear them.
 

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food plots are great for many things. for us as hunters i think the greatest benefit is holding does to your area. then when the time is right the bucks come checking for them. i have used feeders and more recently food plots. i have never ever seen a good mature buck at a food plot or feeder. when i set my stands i cant even see the food plot. i just make a little crop for the deer to have more forage and need less travel to find nutrition. but i set my stands on the travel routes that cross the trails to the food plot. only big bucks make those trails. the food keeps the does happy and close to home and that keeps the bucks around. i it was legal i would plant doe plots! after all does are easier than bucks. simple fact. and usually in any area of the country you cant kill enough does to keep your herd balanced. we are all here for a love of archery and a desire to pursue its challenges. does that mean that for us rifle hunting is not fair. hunt how you love to and encourage others to do the same.
 

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While I don't know if they are or are not legal in Washington, nor have I ever hunted on one, I don't have a problem with them. First off I think they could help save a farmers money crop by giving the deer more variety in there diet. as for the ethics side of it, I still have no problem with it. It is similar to baiting (which I still don't have a problem with). It is not the way I would prefer to hunt, as this is still hunting, if it's legal do it. Bring the back straps home, I'm getting hungry.

If you have a problem with it, DON'T DO IT.
 
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