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Caveat up front; I know this is probably not a big deal, but my OCD drives me nuts every time I see this.

I've built a lot of arrows using Ethics sleeves, in .246, .224 and .204 shafts. For every .204 diameter arrow I've ever built, the sleeve diameter is 5/16", which means that the ferrule diameter of most broadheads line up perfectly with the sleeve. When you move to the larger diameter shafts, though, the sleeve diameter goes up to 11/32" and this means there's a small lip where the sleeve and the bottom of the ferrule contact. I realize it probably doesn't matter much, given that the blades of the head are wider... but I don't like it, because it can't help penetration.

I built a couple new trios of .204 arrows to try again this year, but I'm not particularly in love with either of them, in part because they're pretty flipping expensive. So I'm considering going back to BE Spartans for this season, because they're comparatively cheap and I've always had good luck with them. However, with Spartans come the 11/32" sleeves...

So I was wondering what other heads out there have an 11/32" ferrule? I'm aware of three: Black Hornets (not a fan of aluminum ferrules), Stingers (same) and Cutthroat 2 blades (not a fan of the 25 degree bevel angle, small cutting diameter and lack of bleeders). Anyone know of anything else out there?

Thanks.
 
#2 ·
Good news! Mid July Magnus is releasing a all steel Black Hornet (150 grain).

Personally, I don't see any reason to use a sleeve on standard diameter shafts. The inserts are so much stronger than the systems for smaller diameter shafts, and the only time I've had a blowout was hitting the steel plate on a steel challenge target at a 3D shoot.
 
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Mossy-Back said:
Good news! Mid July Magnus is releasing a all steel Black Hornet (150 grain).

Personally, I don't see any reason to use a sleeve on standard diameter shafts. The inserts are so much stronger than the systems for smaller diameter shafts, and the only time I've had a blowout was hitting the steel plate on a steel challenge target at a 3D shoot.
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That is good news. The Black Hornet 125 flew very well for me. Only reason I didn't keep using them was because the one time I used it on a deer, the head was utterly destroyed by whatever it hit on the offside.

The sleeves are as much about adding weight to my arrow as anything else. My chrono says I'm currently at 287 with a 545 gr arrow, and that's after taking a half-inch of draw length out of the bow because it felt longer on these new strings than the old ones. In my experience, it's really hard to get a 1.25" fixed blade to tune at a speed faster than that.

The above arrow is using a 125 gr head, so a 150 gr head would slow it down a bit more... which is probably not a bad thing. I'd be happy with it anywhere around 280.
 
#4 ·
For my standard shafts (VF TKO) I use the Gold Tip Fact Weights behind the stock inserts if I want to add weight. Super easy with the tool and can switch things up whenever I want without changing inserts or anything. Just pop the nock out and unscrew one weight and put in whatever weight I want. It also lets me use multiple weight heads on the same arrow build and match the weights.
 
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