So last June I ordered a Quietkat from a local dealer that never showed up. Got me to looking at other options when I ran across Butch at Extreme Outdoor ebikes. He builds a custom bike that I got a lot more bang for my buck. Bike arrived Monday eve and within an hour I was on my 1st ride. I got this bike for 2 reasons, exercise and hunting. Day 1 I rode 9 miles and I pedaled a few miles with no power, pedal assist a few miles and throttled a few, day 2 I rode 12 miles and pedal assist all of on the lowest setting(my hiney was real sore at this point. Today I rode about 10 miles and put it through the hunting test and got into some muck. The bike is a mid drive with 8 speeds and boosting 1600w. Front shock , a 52a 17ah battery pack, hydraulic brakes, tube liners, smaller driver sprocket and and larger cassette gears for more torque. The bike is a beast and will take some getting use to in the timber. Very pleased with this bike for 3400$ . Look him up on FB under Extreme Outdoor Ebikes or give him a call at 301-800-8301.....also looking for recommendations on a better seat lol did I mention my tail is sore, lol takes some getting use to but I would like to try a suspension seat.