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I've been shooting rented recurve bows from local archery clubs for about 2 months and was interested in picking up my own bow. I've decided I want an ILF take-down recurve, since I will be starting grad school in Minnesota this coming semester, and the portability of a takedown would let me bring my bow on airplanes and stuff. I'm also not exactly sure what "style" of archery (target, 3D, field/hunting) I'll pursue primarily when I move to MN (depends on local archery stores/ranges/teachers available), though all of them are equally fascinating to me.

So far, I've decided on either the Hoyt Excel or Horizon as my first riser (will probably be getting Samick Privilege limbs).

I'm about 6'7" and have a 28" draw length. Here are my justifications for either riser:

Excel (23")
  • Could use short limbs to build 64" bow (shorter might be better if I take it for hunting some time...I know I know hunting with an Olympic-style recurve!)
  • Could use medium limbs to build 66" bow
  • Limb placement is machined into riser; no lateral adjustment possible


Horizon (25")
  • Could use short limbs to build 66" bow
  • Afraid 68" or 70" bow would be too big for me (inefficient use of limbs)
  • Has dovetail fittings for limb placement, allowing lateral adjustment
  • Better paintjob (Not a big issue, but the pearlescent/metallic paint does make it look cooler :p)

I really wish they made the Excel with lateral limb adjustment capabilities of the Horizon. I think the 23" Excel might be a better fit for me (please correct if I'm wrong about this), but I very much like the better construction of the 25" Horizon. What do you guys think would be better for me? Is there another riser of comparable price/performance of the Horizon but in the 23" size?

Thanks in advance!

-Kerry
 

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6'8" with a 28" DL? I'm right at 6' and I have a 29" DL with a traditional bow.

Do you have a shop where you could play around a bit?
 

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I've been shooting rented recurve bows from local archery clubs for about 2 months and was interested in picking up my own bow. I've decided I want an ILF take-down recurve, since I will be starting grad school in Minnesota this coming semester, and the portability of a takedown would let me bring my bow on airplanes and stuff. I'm also not exactly sure what "style" of archery (target, 3D, field/hunting) I'll pursue primarily when I move to MN (depends on local archery stores/ranges/teachers available), though all of them are equally fascinating to me.

So far, I've decided on either the Hoyt Excel or Horizon as my first riser (will probably be getting Samick Privilege limbs).

I'm about 6'7" and have a 28" draw length. Here are my justifications for either riser:

Excel (23")
  • Could use short limbs to build 64" bow (shorter might be better if I take it for hunting some time...I know I know hunting with an Olympic-style recurve!)
  • Could use medium limbs to build 66" bow
  • Limb placement is machined into riser; no lateral adjustment possible


Horizon (25")
  • Could use short limbs to build 66" bow
  • Afraid 68" or 70" bow would be too big for me (inefficient use of limbs)
  • Has dovetail fittings for limb placement, allowing lateral adjustment
  • Better paintjob (Not a big issue, but the pearlescent/metallic paint does make it look cooler :p)

I really wish they made the Excel with lateral limb adjustment capabilities of the Horizon. I think the 23" Excel might be a better fit for me (please correct if I'm wrong about this), but I very much like the better construction of the 25" Horizon. What do you guys think would be better for me? Is there another riser of comparable price/performance of the Horizon but in the 23" size?

Thanks in advance!

-Kerry
Hello Kerry:

Something is not quite right here.

Either you are not 6'7" tall
or
you are confusing "true draw length" with AMO draw length.

When you measure from the deepest part of the grip on the recurve bow,
to
the nock groove on the arrow nock,
when you are full draw...

this tape measure reading
is called the "TRUE DRAW LENGTH".

So,
if you are using a measuring arrow
and
you or the fella at the archery shop is reading the MEASURING arrow
directly above the deepest part of the curve on the grip...

if the MEASURING arrow is reading 28-inches...
then,
your AMO draw length is 29.75-inches....1.75-inches MORE.





So,
I am 6'2"
and depending on if I use an Olympic style anchor,
string on the FRONT of the chin bone
or
if I use a traditional archery anchor,
string crossing the corner of the mouth....

my recurve AMO draw length is anywhere from 29.5-30.0 inches.


So,
long story short,
do NOT purchase a 23-inch riser,
if you are 6'7" tall.

You want a 25-inch riser with LONG limbs...at a minimum.


I also have the Berardini Luxor riser, which is actually 27-inches long
but ALL 27-inch risers are very very expensive, right now.


So,
select a 25-inch recurve riser
and long limbs.
 

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Acck! I just realized I wrote my height wrong!! I'm actually 5'7". Wow typing fail.

So my height is 5'7" (not 6'7"), and my true draw length is 28", so my AMO draw length would be 29.75".

Sorry for the confusion

@nuts&bolts, good catch with my height. What would you recommend now?

@SHPoet, I have no archery stores nearby me here or where I will be moving to. The outdoors stores nearby only carry compound bows for hunting. No Olympic recurves to be found, unfortunately!

-Kerry
 

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At 5'7" I'd go with the shorter riser but N&B knows more than i do.
 

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Acck! I just realized I wrote my height wrong!! I'm actually 5'7". Wow typing fail.

So my height is 5'7" (not 6'7"), and my true draw length is 28", so my AMO draw length would be 29.75".

Sorry for the confusion

@nuts&bolts, good catch with my height. What would you recommend now?

@SHPoet, I have no archery stores nearby me here or where I will be moving to. The outdoors stores nearby only carry compound bows for hunting. No Olympic recurves to be found, unfortunately!

-Kerry
Hello Kerry:

Need you to stand with your arms horizontal,
bow shoulder down and two shoulders LEVEL.

Wear a shirt with a button.

Measure from the BUTTON to your wrist crease.

What is this measurement?




Need the measurement accurate to 1/16th inch.


If you are actualy 5 feet 7-inches tall,
I would find a button of your shirt
to the wrist crease
measurement = 29.75-inches,
to be HIGHLY unusual.

Bend your wrist,
and measure from the spot where the wrist joints the palm of the hand
to the button of your shirt.


What is this measurement?
 

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Hi N&B,

I lied down on a tile floor with my spine aligned to a line, and had my sister mark the spot on my floor where my hand meets my wrist. Measuring that distance, it came out to be 28.125" (28-1/8").

-Kerry
 

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Hi N&B,

I lied down on a tile floor with my spine aligned to a line, and had my sister mark the spot on my floor where my hand meets my wrist. Measuring that distance, it came out to be 28.125" (28-1/8").

-Kerry
Hello Kerry:


So,
you are 5 foot 7-inches tall,
and your AMO draw length is roughly 28-inches.

So,
since recurve limbs are rated at a 28-inch draw length,
then,
if the limbs say 25 lbs,
then,
you will FEEL 25 lbs of weight on the fingers,
when you hit full draw.

28-inch draw length,
I suggest the 25-inch riser
and
MEDIUM length limbs.

As your skill level improves,
your shooting posture will also change,
and your draw length will change SLIGHTLY,
due to changes in shooting posture,
which NATURALLY occur,
as the skill level increases.
 

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You COULD go for a 25-inch riser
with SHORT limbs....

and this would be slightly FASTER,
due to getting closer to the max bending limit for say
a 66-inch bow.

The 25-inch riser and MEDIUM limbs,
would net you a 68-inch bow,
and will FEEL smoother, at your draw length.


EVERYTHING has to do with string angle.

The shorter 66-inch bow
has a SHARPER string angle,
and you will find that the 66-inch bow
is MUCH more sensitive to consistent finger pressure
and you will have MORE difficulty with high-low misses...

as compared to the 68-inch recurve
which has a LESS SHARP string angle
so,
the 68-inch recurve bow will be more forgiving
with respect to up-down misses.

MORE FORGIVING slightly...of vertical misses? 68-inch recurve bow at 28-inch draw length.

MORE SPEED slightly...for the same draw weight? 66-inch recurve bow at 28-inch draw length.


You could go either way.
 
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