I was told by a somewhat local shop here in Pa that they bought a Carbon Express plant somewhere overseas

 

Always looking for other options. Seriously considering RIP SS right now, but not sure I want a 520 grain arrow for whitetails.

 

Agreed, I’m thinking Sonics…. I’ve been at 500gr and want to go to around 440-450 max.

 

I was on a website yesterday at lunchtime with Sonic 250 shafts in my cart, ready to pull the trigger, and that video popped up. I still might go that route to test. Looks like 6mm brass inserts might be hard to come by right now. At least in the same site.

 

I refuse to use anything with outserts or partial outserts. Same with hidden inserts. I like standard light aluminum inserts for my arrows, and 100gr. Glue-in points for my practice arrows.

 

I saw them at ata and asked about them. They are purchasing the shafts and manufacturing the inserts for front and rear. Front will have different sizes for different weights including a standard lightweight option. Did not get any more info than that as I was too busy drooling over the revex6.

 

Thanks for the info! Hopefully a welcome addition to the industry.

 

I was told that the arrows are very similar to the Carbon Express. The inserts look to be very similar to the Black Eagle FOCUS system. We are supposed to be getting a couple dozen of them in, hopefully soon. We are the number one Black Eagle dealer in our state so we are curious to see how these compare.

 

New arrows tend to have the least amount of appeal to me of just about any other archery related products. Even if I am not planning to buy, I check out current bows and BH's and camo and stands and accessories out of curiosity. But I've shot enough arrows to know what I like and typically what is "new and improved" doesn't mean they will produce any noticeable difference in results. As post #5 related, I have no desire to get into outserts or half-inserts or whatever. For years I shot Easton 5mm Axis with HIT inserts and have been really liking 6mm Axis and Hexx shafts with standard inserts. About as exotic as I get are 50gr brass inserts from Easton to raise the FOC and TAW a bit. While I like G5 bows and continue to use their Head-loc quivers, simply buying a brand of shaft to come out with a similar outsert product is not a draw for me. Those of you who feel differently......I urge you to investigate and report back on your experiences.

 

Can't argue any of that. I dabbled in "skinny" components for the 1st time ever this year, and I will likely just head back to 6mms w/ my tail tucked. The components need some work.

I wish I could still buy the 6mm Under Armour Axis arrows; they were the right weight and very durable. I'm still a bit skeptical about the Sonics, even in a 250 spine........

 

Wonder what the price per dozen will be?

 

Those inserts and collars are pretty much the same as the ones gold tip has been making for 8+ years. I have some on my son's black eagle 4mm arrows and they have worked well, personally I prefer SS HIT's with SS Collars over anything else on the market right now for durability..

 

link to arrows: Mark Series Arrows

 

link to arrows: Mark Series Arrows

Holy cow they're heavy

 

Those are heavy arrows. Much harder to get FOC on a lower draw weight bow and maintain decent speed with that much weight in the arrow itself. Just the shaft will be 50gr heavier than the Black Eagle Rampages I currently run. Wish they said what the grains are for the insert and sleeve.

 

The 244 size isn't bad for GPI but those 203 are heavy, like Day 6 shafts.

 

cx the only other .203, so maybe the cx rumor above is possible.

I made my own footer for maxima sd shafts years ago. Otherwise the front of that arrow with the half out was weak.

 

Yeah bet it’s CX given diameter. Wish they had picked a more standard diameter so you could use the components on multiple brands.

 

Bumping the thread, to see if anyone has tried their Mark 244 Standard diameter arrows? Also, strange but their inserts etc. are not listed separately.