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I keep my bow in our living room all the time. So I like to pick it up a lot and just draw it without arrow in it. I know. I must be stupid to do it but this is how I train my grip. Probably I will keep doing it till I dry fire one day. But anyway I was thinking if it's possible to take the gas spring and screw it in place of an arrow rest so I can draw the bow back with gas spring rod hooked to the string and then just shoot? I will adjust the gas spring so it will put enough pressure on the string as arrow will. Do you guys think this will be safe?
 

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i keep a Vibracheck, safe draw on one of my older bows in the winter months for shooting practice,i can shoot it anyplace in the house and do not have to worry about dry fires.
 

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Probably not, doesn't sound like it. I'm sure there are practice aids that are much safer.
Just my .02
 

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I wouldn't, what happens if the gas spring faults (resulting in a dry fire and potentially flying shrapnel)? Also, there would be no benefit as you will not see a grouping and other inconsistencies in your actual shots, kinda makes the whole process a farce.

At least with a target in your garage, kitchen or living room you can see your grouping and hear differences in your bow shooting as you normally would, even if it is only 3-5 yards away.
 

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Just put a target in the corner and put an arrow in the bow. Then shoot it...drawing the bow isn't practice. Without feedback, you may be training bad habits into your draw and grip anyway thus making your 'practice' the exact opposite of helpful.
 

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Thanks guys. That is why I posted that question here before I did it. But also this might help me practicing hinge release.
 

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Blind bailing can be done at 3 feet and is the best practice for back tension!
 

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OK check this out, I made my own air piston so I could practice my finger release. On the genesis bow I used an old arrow as the piston shaft on the big boy bow I used a .25 aluminum rod. the piston is just a piece of wooden dowel that fits rather loosely in the tube. I thought I had done a full thread on it but I can't find it.
 

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OK check this out, I made my own air piston so I could practice my finger release. On the genesis bow I used an old arrow as the piston shaft on the big boy bow I used a .25 aluminum rod. the piston is just a piece of wooden dowel that fits rather loosely in the tube. I thought I had done a full thread on it but I can't find it.
Can you adjust the pressure?
 

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Can you adjust the pressure?
If you want less pressure you could drill a hole in the end of the tube. My first attempt had pretty tight clearance on the piston so I had to drill a small hole in the end to get it work correctly. The first time I released it the air pressure was to great it took 2 or 3 seconds to get back the the normal brace height.
 

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If you want less pressure you could drill a hole in the end of the tube. My first attempt had pretty tight clearance on the piston so I had to drill a small hole in the end to get it work correctly. The first time I released it the air pressure was to great it took 2 or 3 seconds to get back the the normal brace height.
Can you post how did you build that?
 

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you could always go this route
www.airowgun.com

basically the same thing that bender has done.
 

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I don't know where they got them, but Lancaster Archery Supply has a couple of Genesis bows in their showroom with similar devices on them. They are there for folks to try out releases before purchase.
 

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Go to your local rehab facility and ask them if they will allow you to buy the excerize bands they use on patients. They are color coded for different strengths. I cut them to about 4' long then tied them in a knot so they form a loop. The length of the loop determine the draw weight and it can be changed when your strength increases. I then tied in a d-loop. You can draw and hold using your release, do multiple reps, etc. Extremely good excerize routine.

I think your making a huge mistake drawing your bow with no arrow in it. Wait until its in a pile at your feet - your going to wish you'd never done it.
 

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i would just get a dummy release.. Just my .02
 

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Go to your local rehab facility and ask them if they will allow you to buy the excerize bands they use on patients. They are color coded for different strengths. I cut them to about 4' long then tied them in a knot so they form a loop. The length of the loop determine the draw weight and it can be changed when your strength increases. I then tied in a d-loop. You can draw and hold using your release, do multiple reps, etc. Extremely good excerize routine.

I think your making a huge mistake drawing your bow with no arrow in it. Wait until its in a pile at your feet - your going to wish you'd never done it.
Most sporting goods stores sell these bands. You can even get them with a handle so its similar to a bow grip.
 

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Here is a cross section of the unit I made. It's real simple it's just a tube with a piston. The tube can be anything PVC pipe Aluminum thin walled tube what ever not really all that critical. Then place a piston\plunger on the inside, I used wood dowel but again any round stock will do as long as it fits within I would say a 1/32 from each side, To tight and it becomes to hard to draw and slows the piston too much during the shot. Lastly you need to attach some sort of mounting bracket to the side. If you use PVC pipe you can easily glue a piece of PVC plastic to the side of it and screw on a bracket to that. I use the plunger hole to secure it to the bow. If you could scheme up a quick disconnect that would be even better.
 

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I don't know where they got them, but Lancaster Archery Supply has a couple of Genesis bows in their showroom with similar devices on them. They are there for folks to try out releases before purchase.
Those are Vibrachecks. I don't believe that they are available any more. They are much like the unit that b0w bender built.

I used to have one and hated it. It didn't give the feel of a regular shot because it threw off the balance of the bow. I couldn't get a vibracheck shot to translate to a regular shot. For me a blank bale in the basement works much better.
 

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Those are Vibrachecks. I don't believe that they are available any more. They are much like the unit that b0w bender built.

I used to have one and hated it. It didn't give the feel of a regular shot because it threw off the balance of the bow. I couldn't get a vibracheck shot to translate to a regular shot. For me a blank bale in the basement works much better.
But you have a basement and I don't :-(
 
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