You don't mention in your reply how many times you didn't get a pass thru with the Rage. Have you ever shot them? I know of at least a half dozen guys this year that got pass thru's on elk with the Rage. I have got pass thru's on everything I have shot with the Rage. That being said, I am going to try the Reaper or the EPEK next year just for something different.Grim Reapers will penetrate better than Rage. I have only shot 1 deer with Grim Reapers that I did not get a pass through & thats because the shot was a tad forward. I did however break the shoulder facing me, 2 ribs, & it stopped in the off shoulder. I doubt any broadhead would have got a pass through on that shot.