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Can you post about the ten yard game agian and what it does for one as it pertains to ones shooting ability and confidence. Thanks!!!!(just seems alot of folks are in a slump and it might help em out)
 

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here is an article that I wrote a few years ago that covers the ten yard drill

Shooting Your Practice Scores In The Tournament

Many shooters have the same problem at this stage of their development. Most guys recognize it when they realize that they are shooting winning scores at home and have not quite done it at the tournament Many never recognize the problem and continue to shoot differently than they do at home. This is the difference between winning the shoot and almost making it.
Freezing and getting light on the trigger is just a symptom of the problem. Sometimes it can be acute and sometimes it is so mild that it is barely recognizable, that is, until you miss. Some guys “feeling the pressure” get snappy on the trigger or go to sleep at the wheel and just misfire, but even though it manifests itself in a different way, it is all the same problem.
Here’s what is most likely going on:

Because you are at a “big shoot” you approach the line with a different attitude. You are trying to be extra careful. This extra careful, hands-on approach is what gets us into trouble. You are over correcting and controlling the shot. When you are in practice, you just stand up there and shoot the score you know that you can shoot. You are not careful, or controlling because there is no price for missing. You can get into the flow a lot easier and you can keep it throughout the game. When you have a great practice score going or you are working on a personal record you may tend to freeze or get extra careful, over correct, and control the last end because suddenly there is a price for missing. Sometimes you can gut it out, but most of the time, you end up with the same old score. You have to figure out what is different in practice from the shoot.

“When you are in practice, you just stand up there and shoot the score you know that you can shoot. You are not careful, or controlling because there is no price for missing.”

In most cases, it is the perceived price you pay when you miss. This price makes the shot a life or death situation. You heap a mountain of pressure on yourself by placing such a price on the shot. Pressure causes you to tighten up. Your thumb gets light on the trigger because you are afraid of making a mistake. This slows you down and changes the rhythm of your shot, thereby opening you up for a mistake. You shoot the entire game in a timid and soft-handed manner.

In practice, or shooting with guys you are certain cannot beat your score, you are bold and heavy handed on the trigger. Your shot time increases and you find the zone and ride it to the end. When you are unsure of your ability to win, you get timid and soft handed.

The secret is this. You have to let go and allow the score to happen. In a practice game, you don’t think of your form or worry about anything. You just do it. Never control, never think, and let your form do the shooting. Be bold and sure of yourself. Grab the trigger, Pull through the shot with power and confidence. When you feel the timid shot coming, let down and remind your self how good it feels when you are firm, powerful, and sure it is going to go in. Draw again, aim, and release.

“You have to let go and allow the score to happen. In a practice game, you don’t think of your form or worry about anything. You just do it.”

Sounds easy, doesn’t it?

You can go about teaching yourself this new attitude two ways. You can do it like I did it, and loose enough tournaments over 15 or so years until you don’t really care what the outcome of the shoot is. After you loose enough it’s no big deal any more and you don’t take it as personal. You walk away with the words “well… maybe next year” in your head. You will finally just shoot your game because you are not expecting to win and miraculously you win it.

On the other hand, you can show yourself what the “flow” or “Zone” feels like in practice. Then you have to train yourself to let go and let it happen at the shoot. Relax, and take the score you get. You do have to accept this one little detail. If your average score is not a winning score your probably won’t win, but you can still shoot your average and call it a good showing.
You can practice the feeling and get some positive reinforcement by shooting full games at ten yards. I know…I know…everybody starts dispensing the blank bale and ten yard shooting as a fix all. All the self-proclaimed archery experts out there taking your money, and feeding you all the “type A” personality crap do not have the credentials nor the real world experience to tell you anything about top level shooting. Don’t let them ever tell you it can’t be done because you are not the right personality or that your body isn’t built right. If any body ever tells you any thing like that, find another coach or mentor.

Blank bale does not work. You can blank bale for years and get nowhere because its your eye, and sight, target combination that is causing the problem; not the release. You need to combine all of them together.

“This acclimates your brain to shooting a smooth shot while your sight is dead center on the target. It gives you a positive and perfect image of what it feels like and what it looks like when you are the best archer in the world.”

Set up a target at ten yards. Bring your bow rack down. Get a score card and a pencil. Shoot a full game at ten yards. Do it exactly as you would at a tournament. Keep score. Save the target. Do everything that you would do at a tournament when you shoot a perfect score or a personal record. This acclimates your brain to shooting a smooth shot while your sight is dead center on the target. It gives you a positive and perfect image of what it feels like and what it looks like when you are the best archer in the world. Stay at ten yards for a couple of weeks. Bouncing back and forth from 10 and 20 will do you no good. It is not an instant fix. Resist the temptation to shoot at twenty to see how you are doing. You need to burn this image into your brain. After a couple of weeks, move to fifteen and do the same thing. As you work back, slowly you introduce a little more sight movement into the routine and you will learn to shoot with it, and without worrying about missing.

You will notice that your shots will go off stronger and smoother and with less effort than ever before. You have to dedicate yourself to this because, to be frank, it is the most boring thing you can do, but it works.


George Ryals IV ©2000
 

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Thanks GRIV

Thats a good read......Now....where are you with your book????:D
I'm ready for my copy;) ....WR
 

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thanks griv!......
i think allot of us " recreational shooters" have the determination to shoot better scores at tournaments, spend plenty of time practicing seriously, but don't ever seem to get there. i know i do and i know this works, i started doing it a few weeks before leagues started this winter and shot the best league scores i ever shot. to top it off the very first shoot i did this winter i shot a 299, certainly not a winner but, i never came close to that at a tournament before. and thing about it is that i felt it was easy to shoot that score at the shoot, i was pumped and very satisfied with how i shot at the time, instead of disgusted with my "shooting as usual at a tournament" . i can honestly say it is because i started using the 10 yd. game. it really reinforces your mind that it's good and ok to see the dot in the x.
 

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Great information on the first read through, great information for the 100th read through...

;)

You should consider digging up and reposting Alaska60x's "ramblings" as well (all politics aside)...

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-CG
 

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this really does work.....

Griv,
Thanks for writing this article. This past winter I was trying to shoot my second 60 X. ( my first was last Oct.) No matter how many 59's I could shoot....I just couldn't get that next 60. A friend of mine gave me a copy of this very same article that you wrote and I gave it a try. I practiced at 10 yds at home for a month. When I went back to the 20 yd. line, my first score was a 60X. The rest of the winter went well and I was able to post another 6- 60X's. I took alot of ribbing fom my friends about shooting only at 10yds......but the results speak for themselves. Thanks again for writing this article and I hope others will give it a try as well.
Greg
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It is great to hear that you guys have been helped in one way or another by the ten yard drill. I have used it for years to re-establish my swing when things get a little out of joint.

Thanks Guys!
 

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Griv....I have never shot indoors, but plan to attend vegas. I have done some major form changes lately (heading to a coach in a few weeks to see if they are correct) In the mean time I am only shooting a vegas face at 10 yards for confidence. I am consistantly shooting 300 with 22-26X. I am glad to hear that this practice is doing me some good!!!! I really did not want to move back any farther till the coach tells me if my draw length is correct or not...dont want to instill alot of bad habits...

thanks for the post
 

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GRIV,

That is a good way to practice. Confidence and the mental part are really helped by this.

I have come at it from the other direction. Once I had my shot down, I was shooting games at 30 yards. :D I don't know if this is a good thing, I haven't done it for awhile, but it sure made 20 look easy. :D When I was doing it on a 5 spot, I was shooting 300 35-45x. Is this a good thing to practice? I may start doing it again. I haven't done it on the Vegas yet.
 

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It really does...

...work if you work it.
 

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I am not a spottie but that was very interesting reading. I think I can convert some of that information to 3d. Thanks for posting.
 

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Push it to the top

Some folks are asking about the 10 yard game.
 

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SORRY, don't mean to hijack this thread but Griv, can you start a thread telling your procedure of tuning you bow for indoor and outdoor shooting? How do you establish your center shot rest position, knock position, tiller, 4th axis and so on. How long does it take you to tune your bow.

Can you take us from the time you open the box right to when you are satisfied with the set-up. I don't believe I have seen any posts from you regarding the process. If there has then let me know and I will do more searching.
 

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The Walker said:
SORRY, don't mean to hijack this thread but Griv, can you start a thread telling your procedure of tuning you bow for indoor and outdoor shooting? How do you establish your center shot rest position, knock position, tiller, 4th axis and so on. How long does it take you to tune your bow.

Can you take us from the time you open the box right to when you are satisfied with the set-up. I don't believe I have seen any posts from you regarding the process. If there has then let me know and I will do more searching.
Working on it right now....
 
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