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This has anti-gun written all over it!

I'm wondering just how many Knox College students ever held a gun before the test and the level of difficulty in disassembly and assembly between the two test objects. Was the gun more difficult to assembly, doesn't frustration and anger raise testosterone levels?. With that said I'm not so sure why just men were tested and not the NOW group, levels may be higher....

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"Handling a gun makes men's testosterone levels rise -- and makes them more aggressive.

The finding comes from a study by psychology student Jennifer Klinesmith and her professors at Knox College, Galesburg, Ill. Klinesmith designed the study, in which 18- to 22-year-old college men participated.

Klinesmith told the men they'd be taking part in a study of the effect of attention to detail on taste sensitivity. She collected a saliva sample for testosterone testing. Then she led each man into a room where he sat at a table with an object on it. The man had to take apart the object and put it back together according to instructions.

For half the men, the object was a pellet gun that mimicked a Desert Eagle automatic handgun. The other half of the men worked with a child's game called Mouse Trap.

Fifteen minutes later, the men gave another saliva sample. Then they were asked to taste a lidded 3-ounce cup of water with a drop of Frank's Red Hot Sauce in it.

Hot-Sauce Trick

Finally, the men were given a 3-ounce cup of water and a bottle of the hot sauce. They were told the water would be given to the next man in the study, and that they could -- anonymously -- put as much hot sauce in the water as they liked.

This hot-sauce trick has been used before. The more aggressive a man is feeling, the more hot sauce he tends to put in the next guy's drink.

Sure enough, testosterone went up about 100 times more in the men who handled the gun than in the men who handled the children's toy. And the gun handlers put three times more hot sauce in the water -- on average, about a half ounce -- than the toy handlers.

The more a man's testosterone went up after gun handling, the more hot sauce he put in the water.

"Such findings raise many of the usual questions about whether the presence of guns in modern society contributes to violent behavior," Klinesmith and colleagues conclude. "Although our study is clearly far from definitive, its results suggest that guns may indeed increase aggressiveness partially via changes in the hormone testosterone."

Indeed, after debriefing, many of the men said they were disappointed that the water they'd spiked with hot sauce wasn't really going to be given to another unsuspecting man.

The study appears in the July issue of Psychological Science."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206156,00.html
 

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what a load of bloody tripe i have never in my life heard a more assinine bloody statement from a damn panty waist bloody he!! i gotta wonder if she is french and an anti oh wait they are one in the same if it wernt for american men and there guns she wouldnt be able to do the test and we would all probably be speaking bloody fing german get a life chick
 

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what a load of bloody tripe i have never in my life heard a more assinine bloody statement from a damn panty waist bloody he!! i gotta wonder if she is french and an anti oh wait they are one in the same if it wernt for american men and there guns she wouldnt be able to do the test and we would all probably be speaking bloody fing german get a life chick
Well said! This one wins the Stupid Article of the Day Award. She must be originally from south of the Tapanzi Bridge!

Doesn't get any dumber, folks.

As an aside..... I finally picked up my new rifle over the weekend! BooYah!

This thing is sweet. Browning Model 1885 .45-70 cal single shot Rifle. Lever action, fall away block. No tang site but it is ready for it, and I believe I will get that piece in another couple weeks.

Primarily shoots black powder cartridges but will handle modern powder just fine, although I like the black powder cartridge. Squeezed off a couple shots after I got it. I am amazed at the lack of recoil this firearm delivers. Took a 150 yard shot, first shot with the rifle at a target. Was high 2 inches, and a few inches off-center. All me. What a firearm.
 

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Pretty lame study

How big was the test group? What were there backgrounds other than obviously not having experience with firearms. Why weren't they exposed to other things that could have raised testosterone levels(woman, cars, sports) to compare level increases? Why weren't they exposed multiple times to see if experience decreases the level increases? Could it be the findings they reached in this study were the ones they wanted? No where near enough test data to give any credence to such a study especially one done by a student, unless you have an agenda the study fits.
 

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THANK YOU FOR THE WOMAN SCIENCETEST!!!:mad: :mad:
If this had been a real test it would have included men and women from all age groups from about 6 and up. This lady wasn't interested in science, but rather to put idea that men and gun are aggressive, this isn't science, it's a freaking joke.:thumbs_do

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I feel my testosterone level rising!

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Well said! This one wins the Stupid Article of the Day Award. She must be originally from south of the Tapanzi Bridge!

Doesn't get any dumber, folks.

As an aside..... I finally picked up my new rifle over the weekend! BooYah!

This thing is sweet. Browning Model 1885 .45-70 cal single shot Rifle. Lever action, fall away block. No tang site but it is ready for it, and I believe I will get that piece in another couple weeks.

Primarily shoots black powder cartridges but will handle modern powder just fine, although I like the black powder cartridge. Squeezed off a couple shots after I got it. I am amazed at the lack of recoil this firearm delivers. Took a 150 yard shot, first shot with the rifle at a target. Was high 2 inches, and a few inches off-center. All me. What a firearm.
Congratulations Doc, that there is one very fine firearm, especially for a production piece.

I can see how a test like this could be very easily made to produce whatever results the tester wanted to see. The other side is sleazy indeed.:mad:
 

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Congratulations Doc, that there is one very fine firearm, especially for a production piece.

I can see how a test like this could be very easily made to produce whatever results the tester wanted to see. The other side is sleazy indeed.:mad:
Thanks my friend! Now I have to find someone who can load me up some BP cartridges. I have the formula used for the cartridges that I was give. 95 grains BP, 532 Gr projectile (gas suppressor), heavy wadding.... Hopefully I can get roughly 100 cartridges pressed up, otherwise I'll be forced to first use modern powder cartridges (405 gr projectile, flat nose, Remington stuff) or invest in a reloading press and learn myself (which is what I intend to do anyhow, but don't want to engross in this endeavor until after hunting season).

Yes, I am very, very happy.... Especially when I see the same firearm selling for between $1500 and $2K! I got it for far less than that (actually got it at cost.) Good darned deal, one that I just couldn't say no to!
 

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are you freakin kiddin me with this psyco babble bulls#*! I can belive that some poor sap is paying for his dumb a#$ liberal daughter who drinks to damm much to be able to come up with something decent to do a study on.I bet if you stick her in a situation where a armed citizen keeps her from getting robbed or worse she would change her whole tune about her stupid little study.
 

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Instead of guns and games, how bout:

Magazines: Playboy and Highlights

Music: Iron Man and Barney Theme

Sports: Boxing and Figure Skating

Movies: Rambo and Heidi

Cars: Corvette and a mini van

Art: Monster buck scene and Daisies in the meadow

People: Hot chick in a bikini and a 60 year old librarian

Maybe the study would suggest that girly magazines, heavy metal, violent sports, action movies, fast cars, big bucks, and hot chicks all:"....... raise many of the usual questions about whether the presence of these items in modern society contribute to violent behavior," and may indeed increase aggressiveness partially via changes in the hormone testosterone."


Asinine!!
 
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