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Halon 6 vs. Triax

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#1 ·
:First post on archery talk:
so I'm in the market for a new bow this year. This'll be my first high end bow (I currently own a mission ballistic and have for 4 years). I've now shot all the the brands flagship that I had in question, at dealers (as much side by side as I could). I came back to the triax for every reason but one... peep location. No peeps or sights were installed on any of the bows, but with the triax it seemed that the string "sleeve"(?) Below the monkey tail, would be in the way for my peep (6'2"tall, 29.5" draw). Which is leading me to believe that the halon 6 may be a better choice. I prefer the short ata bows, which is why I bought the ballistic, and don't really want to go higher than 30 or 31".

So I have 2 questions to owners of one or both:

1) is the draw cycle different on the 6 as opposed to the triax? If so then I guess I'd want to try to find one to shoot before buying used since the dealers here don't have them anymore.

2) what are the string sleeves, as I called them earlier... And can they be removed? If they can, what changes might I expect to see?
 
#2 ·
Welcome to AT

I shot a Halon 6 for two years and currently have a Triax. I find that the Triax has a slightly stiffer draw than the Halon (but it could be because I had a Halon so long and am not used to the Triax yet though).

The sleeves that you are referring to are actually speed nocks and they’re placed in those specific locations by the engineers in order to increase speed. When I have new strings made, I want speed nocks placed in the same spots that they were in when I bought it. Hope this helps


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#6 ·
Not sure which part you are referring to. The raised sections above and below the monkey tail are called speed nocks. The horizontal wrapping around the string is the serving. I would imagine you could remove the speed nocks but would not advise removing any of the serving. This picture will give you a better idea of what I'm referring to.
 

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#8 ·
That seems really high for a peep sight. I would go back to the shop and ask them to install a peep on the bow for you. If they’re serious about selling a bow they shouldn’t mind. I think you’ll find that your normal peep height will be well below the speed nocks.


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#10 ·
That seems really high for a peep sight. I would go back to the shop and ask them to install a peep on the bow for you. If they’re serious about selling a bow they shouldn’t mind. I think you’ll find that your normal peep height will be well below the speed nocks.

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I am going to go back this weekend and ask. I decided I'll never know if I don't try it and I'm the type of person that needs to be sure before I spend the money.
 
#9 ·
I saw Levi Morgan with his triax and his peep was crammed up against the serving. He also indicated he had to readjust his form with the triax. Sorry but if I'm buying a bow I don't want to have to readjust my form. Not a mathews hater at all. I know I will get slack for that info though. I have shot 3 different mathews and will continue to give them a try but I will always shoot whats best for me.
 
#11 ·
I also saw the interview with him saying he had to tilt his head down, "but it's not much and doesn't bother him". The dealer told me they could push serving up and get the peep higher. I'm just not sure if I'd be consistent if I'm moving my head around to get things to line up. But without one installed it was difficult to know where I'd be with it... especially once it was a concern in my own mind
 
#12 ·
I know I'm ok with 30" ata, but never shot the halon 6 and wish I could before I buy a used one online because the draw of the triax is awesome and the specs are the same, but I'm hearing they feel a little different. If that's the case I might even like the bowtech realm as much as the halon 6.
 
#13 ·
I’ve had a Halon and now own a Triax. The distance of the string track is going to play a role in the stiff feeling. If you back down the Triax a few pounds you could probably have a bow that feels similar in draw. I personally feel the the Triax is more accurate than the halon. I’ve shot both at longer distances (60-75 yards) and the Triax holds better for me.
 
#21 ·
Shot the triax simply put it's not for me. Way to stiff for my liking, I will say the string angle wasn't as bad as I thought, but there is some noticeable hand shock but very minimal and the bow holds a little to sloppy for me, simply put as I've always stated It's to short for my liking. Glad it works for the rest of you guys though. Cheers!
 
#22 ·
I would be interested to see if the timing of that bow was slightly off- Ive shot a few Triaxes and haven’t felt vibration after the shot. The bow not holding steady is going to have a lot to do with draw length. There is substantial float even if a bow is 1/2 to 1 inch longer on draw. For instance- put your arm out and watch the tip of your finger- now extend your arm with an over exaggerated reach pointing and watch that finger float a bit more
 
#26 ·
Curious to hear more comparisons of these 2 bows. Borrowed my buddies Halon 6 and loved it. Hard to tell how a Triax would shoot for me only putting a dozen arrows through a bare bow at a shop.

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#27 ·
I've never owned a two cam bow. I currently shoot the No Cam HTR. I've shot all of the Halons and the Triax. But it is like papachuby says above, to put just a couple dozen arrows through a bow without anything but an arrow rest makes it tough. I'm short so my thoughts on the Triax wouldn't do you justice other than it shoots just as smooth as my No Cam. When I have shot the Halon or Halon 32 I didn't care for the draw. I'm sure that had something to do with my lack of experience with a two cam bow. I know guys who shot the Halon 32 and love them. Another bow you might look at is the Monster Chill. I believe it came out a year before the Halon but I also have heard good things about it. Personally, at your height and draw I would really give the Halon 32 a look. JMHO
 
#28 ·
I had a Triax for a day a couple of weeks ago. It is a great bow, but simply put, there is no "super dee duper" magic instilled in the bow that made it appreciably better/different than the two Halon 32's that I'm currently shooting. I couldn't justify an additional $900 just to say that I owned a Triax. When doing an A/B comparison, the last group out of my Halon 32 had all three shafts nearly touching at 40 yards... That was enough to seal the deal for me, and appeal to my practical (conservative/cheap) side that I didn't NEED a Triax. So, I'll go back into holding pattern, to see what November 2018 brings.

I'm old school, I guess. Have killed an awful lot of deer with 41" ata bows from out of a treestand. It brings me more pleasure to stand back at 80 yards and have arrows grouped reasonably tight, than to say that something is 5% more dead in hand, or 1/8 decibel quieter. Someone else may have different priorities, and I have no doubt that the Triax is capable of achieving long distance groups in competent hands. I just didn't think it was appreciably/notably better than my Halon 32's.

I am in the honeymoon stage with a 35" ata, 5.4 pound, 5" brace height bow, as of late... the Mathews Wake!
 
#39 ·
I own a Halon 6 and after shooting the Triax I decided there wasn’t enough “wow” factor for me to trade up and I liked the draw better. I have a 30” And don’t place on shooting a bow shorter than my draw length. And as far as hand shock. The Halon is pretty dead in the hand as it was advised just 2 years ago
 
#40 ·
I ended up buying a "new to me" halon 6. I was able to shoot it beside the triax (and with a peep in both this time). The hight wasn't an issue as I felt it would be, however the distance from the peep ...i was much more comfortable with the h6. Draw cycle and compactness of the triax is initially what made me want that bow, but after shooting the h6 I couldn't really tell much difference in draw cycle... minimal at best (granted I haven't shot the halon series before any of this), and I learned that a 28"ata is to short for me personally. I did notice that the bare triax steadied out quicker than the bare halon, but after a stabilizer it wasn't noticeable anymore. Coming off my old bow (mission ballistic) either of these would've been a huge upgrade. The comfort of the string angle and the ability to make it completely my own (other than the riser) for the same price as a new triax sold me the halon 6.

Thanks for everybody's input!

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#41 ·
Congrats on the Halon purchase! I was following to see where you ended up. I've shot the Halon, the Triax and own the Halon 32 and agree there is not much difference in the draw cycle or post-shot feel. All are very nice shooting bows.
 
#43 ·
I shot the triax,halon and halon32 and chose the 32. I traded a creed xs 28"ata and had a little trouble getting comfortable at full draw with it because of the string angle. I think the triax would give me the same trouble so the longer ata works for me. From what i can tell the triax and halon are the same bow as far as draw cycle ,same cams on triax and halon 32,riser is close to the same also . moving the harmonic stabilizer to the front may help some but these bows dont have a vibration problem so its not a factor.
 
#45 ·
I prefer the draw of the Triax to my halon 30 or 32, it’s definitely smoother .The Triax also holds better to me , it is more neutral. The 30 is a little too heavy and the 32 even more so. Vibration and noise are absent on the Triax. This little nubby bow is going to be great in the stand this season.
 
#46 ·
Shot both extensively halon 30 all the way for me but I am a taller fella. And if people say the string angle on the triax isn’t bad I call BS. It’s terrible as any short ata bow. My peep would also be at the serving. So if u have a long draw u won’t like it after the new wears off.
 
#47 ·
I put money down on a new Halon 6, Was on sell for 849. I can't wait to pick up in couple weeks when I pay it off. The draw on the Halon 6 is so smooth all the way back. My Z3 at 62 pounds felt like you was drawing 62 lb. The Halon 6 at 60 lb feels like 50. I had him crank it up. So he took it to 68 lb and it was easier then my solo cam z3.