[B3AV3R]

With the resurgence of heavy arrows these days I'm wondering how much of a good thing is too much... How much speed loss is worth shooting a heavy arrow for some of you?

Would you shoot a 500 grain arrow if it meant you'd only get 220 fps or would you opt for something a little lighter?

Just for fun, who shoots the slowest bow on Archerytalk?

 

[Acts 10:13]

I like 270-280 FPS with as heavy as I can get. I'm shooting a 421 grain arrow around 278. Good balance of speed versus weight. Had to use brass inserts to get there. But man do they fit well.

 

[VonH]

Well...I'll tell you in a month.

I went to a 520 grain arrow out of my HCA Excalibur to quiet it down. It did a great job of cutting noise. Pretty dang quiet now. By the pin gaps I have now, I'll say it is in the 225ish range.

 

[hunterhewi]

Running 500 grains out of the LF2 in my sig 293 fps. Thinking bout a knightmare with 80lb limbs and 600 grain arrow at around 280-282

 

[mez]

500 grains 2013 Carbon Element 268-272fps

 

[rlsbowhunt]

507 gr @ 334 fps. i would rather shoot 500 @ 220 vs 300 @ 300

 

[iceman14]

513 at 275-280. I should shoot one out of my slow bow just to see what it does.

 

[dewijw01]

I never would. Do a simple KE calculator, very little if none is gained by reducing your speed and increasing your weight. I will take speed over weight any day. A flatter shooting arrow increases accuracy, its also what keeps you from missing the vitals when that deer jumps the string (will eventually happen). I've gone from heavy and slow (280fps) to fast and light (365gr). I've crunched the numbers and put both into practice with real life applications. Heck, I've had my worst penetration with my heavier setup. Some people are stubborn and can't be helped. Shoot whatever makes you happy. Just remember, there's LOTS of kids and women getting pass thrus with 40lb bows and 300gr arrows. Theres no replacement for shot placement.

 

[kyhunter57]

My 440 grain arrows at 270 fps are quiet as can be and group extremely well. They work great with my 1 3/4" Swackers and are lethal on deer. I don't think I would shoot anything that slowed my bow down to 220 though unless my shooting distance was pretty short . The trajectory and pin gaps would be too much different from what I'm used to.

 

[Fulldraw1972]

I was shooting a 468 grain arrow at 285 fps. My new set up I am hoping for a 500 grain arrow at 298 fps.

 

[Rod Savini]

I never would. Do a simple KE calculator, very little if none is gained by reducing your speed and increasing your weight. I will take speed over weight any day. A flatter shooting arrow increases accuracy, its also what keeps you from missing the vitals when that deer jumps the string (will eventually happen). I've gone from heavy and slow (280fps) to fast and light (365gr). I've crunched the numbers and put both into practice with real life applications. Heck, I've had my worst penetration with my heavier setup. Some people are stubborn and can't be helped. Shoot whatever makes you happy. Just remember, there's LOTS of kids and women getting pass thrus with 40lb bows and 300gr arrows. Theres no replacement for shot placement.

The calculators are wrong. Ke always increases with arrow weights, up to 1000+ grains thanks to a forum member. You never lose KE. Plus KE shouldn't be what you want. MO or momentum is what you want. And that always rises. You are wrong

 

[weekender21]

Many advantages to shooting a relatively heavy arrow. I don't get too carried away but was shooting a 447 grain arrow out of a 60 pound bow at 261 fps. Very accurate, quiet and amazing penetration. Currently shooting 488 grains out of a 70 pound bow. I see no reason to shoot more than 280-285 with my hunting set-up. If bows become efficient enough for me to shoot more than 285 fps with a heavy arrow I'll just shoot lighter draw weight.

 

[dewijw01]

KE only increases if speed remains constant. Incase you didn't read the original post, we are referring to decreasing speed and increasing the weight. And I'm wrong? You just trumped physics with your opinion, good job genius. I stated my reasons and benefits to speed vs weight. I understand momentum, hence why I stated added benefits outside of just energy generated. Theres always a couple tards like you that chime in on these "heavy vs speed" threads. Its opening a can of worms

 

[iceman14]

So, my bow:

[email protected]= 96.65 KE
[email protected]= 97.02 KE

Speed slowed down and KE went up. There ya go, genius. Go ahead and open that can.

If you think 50fps is going to prevent a deer from jumping the string you're already clueless.

 

[dewijw01]

Lol. I said it will go up little if any. That is very little. You just backed up my original post. Thank you. Looks like the human torch showed up..... Flame on!!!

 

[slb]

I never would. Do a simple KE calculator, very little if none is gained by reducing your speed and increasing your weight. I will take speed over weight any day. A flatter shooting arrow increases accuracy, its also what keeps you from missing the vitals when that deer jumps the string (will eventually happen). I've gone from heavy and slow (280fps) to fast and light (365gr). I've crunched the numbers and put both into practice with real life applications. Heck, I've had my worst penetration with my heavier setup. Some people are stubborn and can't be helped. Shoot whatever makes you happy. Just remember, there's LOTS of kids and women getting pass thrus with 40lb bows and 300gr arrows. Theres no replacement for shot placement.

 

[dewijw01]

Not sure where you came up with speed "preventing" a deer from jumping the string. Are you reading my posts? It seems you're struggling to follow along.

 

[slb]

Not sure where you came up with speed "preventing" a deer from jumping the string. Are you reading my posts? It seems you're struggling to follow along.

Everything you have said has been inaccurate, so what's the advantages of speed over weight?

 

[dewijw01]

Everything you have said has been inaccurate, so what's the advantages of speed over weight?

Inaccurate? Based off what? I have real life applications to back up my position of choosing speed over weight. I've done both and formulated my stance. What have you done?

 

[slb]

Innacurate? Based off what? I have real life applications to back up my position of choosing speed over weight. I've done both and formulated my stance. What have you done?

I asked what are the advantages of less weight for more speed vs less speed for more weight? I need not do anything its all been done.