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HELP!!! Lighted Nocks…Small diameter

951 views 33 replies 17 participants last post by  Sykeshls2  
#1 ·
Can someone tell me a lighted nock that actually fits and works Easton 4mm FMJs??
 
#3 ·
Imo there isn't any good ones. They ALL flex upon being shot causing inconsistent arrow flight and possible breakage in the nock itself.
Not necessarily a manufactors fault, but just not enough material that can be used to create a more stable nock while having room for the lighting mechanism and still fit into shaft. Its crazy the difference in lighted nocks just going from 4mm to 5mm with 5mms being very stable.
 
#6 ·
I have tried most lighted nocks and I do agree that most if not all are not worth it. However I do keep using them because I just like the benefits of seeing your arrow better, easier to find and so on. With that being said I read on here about an Amazon nock that so far works as good if not better than all the name brand. They are Cosi-comu nocks. I shoot small diameter and I have been shooting these 3-4 times a week for about a month now and so far there has not been 1 failure or have I had one break. They light every time and are bright and easy to turn off. You just slide the on off switch. The best part is that they are cheap. You get 6 for about $17!! So far these are my favorite lighted nocks. I have yet to shoot one through an animal but I like what I see so far!!
 
#15 ·
The older Halo nocks had a issue with breaking. The newer ones with the clear bodies are far more durable. Here is the problem I have found with them. They have the same issues most lighted nocks have in 4mm. They are very substitutable to breaking. They will absolutely change your tune. They will be inconsistent from nock to nock on tuning. The Halos are designed for center serving sized at .108. Most bows like Mathews and Darton and Elite have a center serving at .112. So the Halos will fit very tight on most stock strings. Which hurts tuning quiet a bit.

If your shooting max 30-40 yards none of anything I just said matters. If your super tuning your arrows to shoot baseball sized groups at 70 yards you will absolutely hate lighted nocks.
 
#16 ·
They are very substitutable to breaking.
LOL I think the word you're looking for is "susceptible". Next time, try a shorter word: "prone".
Anyway I have been using the Deepower nocks in both .246 ID and .165 un-adapted versions. The latter seem lower in build quality, e.g. the occasional molding nub sticking out, and some fit looser than others. Also, the nock has a small amound of bending flex where it inserts into the arrow due to the thin and somewhat soft plastic. But the main problem seems to be that the switches are inconsistent, e.g. sometimes they get really tight and require me to take out my pocket knife to turn off.
Anyway, at some point I should see how these "group" compared to a regular nock like the AAE IP4.

(I think Deepower are the same as Cosicomu. And if so, I'd rather use these than the Cosicomu which has the fake photoshopped images on Amazon, as well as that really fake and dumb "video" of a bearded guy narrating. I won't support such low effort advertising)
 
#17 ·
Firenocks hands down the best lighted nocks period. More expensive up front yes. Requires you to glue in shock caps. So little more work. But they save you money in the long run. Cuz you can replace the nocks you can replace the batteries. You'll still be shooting the same lighted circuits many many years later. Again the best BY FAR nothing out there in the same league as them. It's definitely one of those you get what you pay for times in life
 
#20 ·
you can buy a complete sets ..I think all you need then is batteries
just make sure you install the shock end caps at the right depth in arrow shaft
the tool to install the shock caps, comes in kit or can be bought separate
the Nocks are solid , best quality you can get , made from a single mold like Beiter Nocks are ...

you need

nocks
circuits
shock endcaps
batteries

I like the target circuits for practice because they shut off in 13 seconds ..the hunting circuits you have to
drop arrow from 6"+ on the Nock to shut it off ....
 
#23 ·
I use the Amazon “XHYCKJ” G lighted nocks on my 4mm Axis. $25 per dozen. Never had a failure. Easy to turn off.

Or you could spend $100 (?) on 3 firenocks after you spend an hour trying figure out what you’re even supposed to buy.

Even if they cost the same, the Amazon nocks with a switch are the best design in my opinion.
 
#24 ·
I have had several of these bend and crack, but i shoot 1000 shots a month. Some of them were not really noticeable but the arrows were shooting odd. I checked nocks and some were slightly bent and some had tiny cracks. Also, many of them were extremely toght on string.
 
#27 ·
For the record, solely based on this thread, i am now $200 and 2 hours deep into firenocks. I bought $110 worth to get started, after sifting through to find out what i needed. Got enough for 6 practice nocks and 3 actual lighted nocks. Got the nocks, then realized there are parts to glue in. However, they are out of the glue they recommed so used some gorilla gel glue (they recommend a gel) i had at home. Half of the tiny pieces glued in correctly, the other half i had to do it 2-3 times. Ruined the wrap on one trying to get it glued in correctly. Then have to let the glue dry overnight. So then i had 9 arrows with tiny pieces glued in and 6 with mo tiny piece. Can’t really practice at distance like that. I got on and ordered 3 more batteries and lights and 6 more practice nocks, another $94. To be honest, i can fletch a dozen arrows faster that placing 12 caps in the arrows. But, i bit the bullet and i’m all in, whether they work/last or not. I do think these nocks look stronger/thicker than the plastic in other lighted nocks.
 
#29 ·
Another update. Finally allowed enough time for glue to dry per instructions. *Note the nock thickness is about half my original nocks (day six) so will have to asjust the d-loop as the nock now has tons of “play” setting on string. Putting in the weighted match sets, the nocks are so tight in the shaft that trying to get the nocks seated, i bent 2-3 of the nocks to where they do not snap on the string. Wouldnot go this route again, but now that the small pieces are glued in the shaft of $100 worth of arrows, not sure what choice i really have for now. Fyi the nocks that did go in ok and snap on the string do seem to shoot well.
 
#30 ·
One more update, not to take over the thread, but it was about small diameter nocks. I called the phone number to see about replacements for the nocks that bent. The owner, i assume, answered and told me “of course the nocks twisted, if you had trouble putting them on. I guarantee it.” I asked about some replacements for the bent ones (after spending $200) and he said i would have to send mine in and he would send some, probably .10 a piece nocks. Unfortunately, i am leaving next week for an elk hunt (i know i picked a horrible time to try this, but i had no idea it was going to be so in depth and gluing things in my arrow) and there is no time to return them and then get more sent. Now, i have to drill out all of the endcaps from 9 arrows because i dont have enough for practice arrows, etc.
 
#32 ·
One more thing to think about. I have a primary and a back-up bow. I typically shoot the same arrows out of both. After elk season, i lower the poundage on my back-up bow and shoot lighter arrows for whitetail out of a saddle.

I say all that to bring up the point, to shoot firenocks i have had to make my d loop smaller, to the point that i would have to redo the d loop again to shoot the lighter arrows for deer, since the firenock nocks are so small.

On a good note, i did try some transparent g nocks i had and they will fit over the firenock inserts and could be used. Of course most of the nocks i have are solid white and the light does not show through. I will have to shorten the neck of the nock to get it to sit against the arrow.
 
#33 ·
I have run Deepower nocks from amazon with great sucess. I tried the new Raised Hunting nocks not very bright and the switch is horrible. Halo 4mm nocks they are very brittle and will break if the arrow hits the ground or on a pass through on a Deer. Lumenock and Nockturnal seem decent but expensive and not as bright as the Deepower nocks.
 
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#34 ·
Another Update: i decided to send everything back and go without lighted nocks, once again, since i do not want to have to switch everything out between seasons, worried about the durability of these nocks, etc. when trying to remove the matched weights from the shafts, 3 will not come out. I followed the directions to the t (even running a drill bit on the inside of my arrow shaft before inserting the weights to remove and glue and waiting 18 hours (an extra 6 hours)) and i cant bang the weights out on concrete. So, anothrr $50 in arrows wasted.