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I have a little chunk of land I own for hunting and I’m going to be buying the plot that butts up to mine. I’m pretty sure the guy on the other side of the piece I’m buying has been hunting the piece I’m buying for a few years. He’s a bit of a hot head and I’m sure he won’t be happy I’m buying it but whatever. We’ve had a decent relationship over the years. My plan was to ask him to walk his side of the line with me to show me where it’s at and that I plan on posting it just to cover my butt. I’m looking for input on ways to answer if he asks if he can hunt it. The obvious answer is no but he lost his lease last year and doesn’t have enough land to hunt at his place so I’m expecting the question. I do have two kids who will be hunting with me this year so I was going to go that angle. Just wondering if anyone has been in a similar spot and has anything they’re glad they did or wish they’d done differently. Thanks!
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i would say no from a standpoint that it will be safer for your kids as well as having a hunter there is just a legal liability. for me, i'm just selfish and those deer on my land would be for me and my family
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Dude. Get it surveyed, it won’t cost that much. Tell him you have to for the buying process if that bothers you to explain why you’re doing it.

one tough conversation about the kids could save 100 later arguments.

I would also say you are putting up game cameras near the line “for the kids” to see pics of deer.

I bought 40 acres and the ahole next to me still argues the survey lines are wrong. I can’t imagine if I had no real lines. —Again get it surveyed
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Duckbutter, ask him to show you the pins.
Thanks everyone. Good inputs and greatly appreciated!
Get a certified survey done, and not done by one of those fellas that just go by where the pins currently are placed.
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not sure what state you in but let him hunt and maybe build a shack on your land and he'll have a claim in few years
it's your land and he is trespassing. Make yourself clear to avoid any conflict in the future
Duckbutter, ask him to show you the pins.
It’s tough dude was an ass from day 1.

I don’t think I could walk beside him that long.

I feel for OP cause my guy also hunted the land I bought for years prior to me having it. He now hates me just for buying it. Tries to start a fight half the time I see him.
I hope OP has better luck.
"Absolutely you can hunt it. I'll sell it to you for $(50,000 more than you bought it for) then you can hunt it. Can I hunt it after you buy it?"
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Help me understand how he doesn't have enough property to hunt. Is this a law there, I only have two acres but it is out of city limits, and here in OR if I wanted I could step outside of my house and shoot a deer in my yard if I have a valid tag. Couldn't he still just set up a stand on the property line and hunt his side?

Personally, I wouldn't post it unless it becomes a problem, most neighbors around here don't post their land unless it's accessible by public ground or a roadway, putting a big sign facing a friendly neighbor is kind of a dick move IMO. It is nice to have good relationships with your neighbors, what if one of your kids kills a deer and it crosses onto his property? I think most people could accept a no I purchased the land for my kids to hunt. If the guy is a prick about it when you tell him not to hunt it who cares, either way I would agree with everyone else who says to survey the land and put up a fence.
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I would simply say "no" in a nice way but without any explanation or reasons. If he asks why, just tell him "I'm buying this place for my family and I to hunt and it is for us only".

Because once you give a reason, then you give him openings to poke holes in those reasons. Then you have to keep going like some type of lawyer. The guy might have good enough verbal chops to actually back you into a corner.

For instance, if you say "I have kids and don't want an accident"....he'll show you his hunter safety card, promise on a stack of bibles he's the most safestest, and say "well, can I call you on the days I want to hunt and if you and your kids aren't there then it is safe?"

Also, if it was my land to hunt, there's zero chance I'd let anyone else (other than friends and family) to hunt it.

Based upon my public hunting land experience, the average person does not know how to properly hunt an area without ruining it (tracking scent everywhere unnecessarily, walking through bedding areas constantly because they keep jumping deer in them so they think that's the spot, letting their stink wind blow into bedding areas, etc). Also, if it isn't his land, then, like public, there's no reason for him not to blow out your property like that.

I'd also put some trail cams up to make sure he isn't sneaking in. If he does sneak in, print the picture and mail it to him with a nice note to please stop.
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Like everyone else said SURVEY and be firm. Had a situation where a piece of land came up touched my mom's land and a farmer I had known my entire life. Ended up getting it (not a large piece but holds deer and has a pond). Don't ya know this super nice guy I knew my whole life came in and tried to dictate my lines by hundreds of yards. I politely explained how he was wrong and it proceeded to turn into a knock out drag out fight. Got the land surveyed was firm on the boundaries and postings and put up cell cameras. Don't you know I caught him taking down a stand of mine he claimed was on "his" land. I would have never thought it in a thousand years.
With the survey you should be able to know where the lines are, then post signs and if you feel like it give him a call, if he is a hot head I would keep my distance and interaction to a minimum.
Get a survey done, investing money into the property you want the correct lines. If he asks NO need to give him any explanations. None of his biznazz. IMO
EXACTLY, and no reason to explain oneself. I get asked to cut wood, ATV, hunt, walk etc and I just say no and leave it at that, if they ask why I just say "I don't let people blank", then excuse myself.
Fences make great neighbors. Seriously just get it surveyed and have a fencing company right behind building the fence. Could even do a simple five strand barb wire fence. Enough to clearly mark it. Then about 10 feet back place game cameras. Don’t screw around or **** around. Unfortunately be an ******* up front, let them know you mean business.
when you buy it you should have a survey done, not just walking where he or you think the line is.
try to be there when the survery is done with 5 cans of purple paint... then put up a 3 wire fence, does not need to be barb wire unless you are running cattle...
Not all States Accept the "purple" paint rule some states only accept that it is Posted every so many feet that others can see / read the signage.
But Yes you need to have it Surveyed and mght want to put n a few T-Posts so you can know where the Line Is. Then there is no question where the line is don't need a fence line just something visible as you can reference later. So There is no Question where the line is exactly.
Try to be patience as you never know. Also keep a reord of what goes on if there is any Issues and if he does not accept what you are asking for. Then you need to make an official police report as there is a record for future incursions. And maybe take pictres or videos if he does trespass after advising he is not welcome on your property. It is sad that some do not abide by trespass laws. Seen it years ago some bpught a home next to a friends 80 arces and set up a coupe ladder stands when he was asked to remve hem he had a week and he didnot so the landowner removed them and things went sideways he was messing with the owners tree stands and ground blinds and it got way out of hand the owner had to get Law Enforcement involved. Some have no respect. Sad part is my friend's family owned that proerty for 50 years his father passed it down to him before he passed. being vacant land and 2 hour drive tpugh to keep others off. Never had any issues prior. Stopped huntng there after that. He trash my brothers pop up ground blind did not want to deal with someone that thinks he has access to others land. But that happens.
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The folks that pay the taxes and mortgage are the ones who set the conditions. If he doesn't have enough to hunt on, he should have purchased the land instead of you. It is not your matter that he lost his lease, nor should you feel obligated to allow free access when you have kids to hunt there as well. I know that sounds a bit harsh, but my wife and I bought a 21+ acre parcel in 2019 and the guy I bought it from who still owns about 90 acres in the area and lives asked if he could still hunt it. As polite as possible, I told him that this was the only property I own for hunting and he has a bunch more on the other side of his homestead.

So making the payments for the second half of the ground, as well as taxes gave me exclusive rights to hunt it. I told him and his son that if they needed to track a deer, they were long as this was a mutual consideration. Then I put up a half dozen trail cams and get up there sporadically in the off-season. As a matter of fact, I just got home from a short jaunt up there to pull a stand, move some sticks and replentish batteries in the Spartan cell cam that died earlier in the week.
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Another reason to never own hunting land..
For me it depends on the neighbour and land mass/game numbers.
I've got two neighbours who can come on anytime they want to. The same goes for me being on their place. The third neighbour can GAGF. The other two neighbours feel the same way about that neighbour too.
Having a good relationship with the neighbour is a good thing in our remote rural area. We all help each other out at various times without needing to ask or be asked.
As others have stated get a survey and if you are concerned what he thinks about the lines tell him he is welcome to get his own survey.
My brother had a line surveyed and it was several feet on what his neighbor claimed and after discussion with the neighbor, who disputed the survey results, my brother had the surveyor re-check the line and the result was the same still several feet on what the neighbor claimed. The neighbor got a surveyor and had my brother and his surveyor meet at the disputed line, long story short my brothers surveyor was wrong and after talking with the neighbors surveyor and realizing his error he just said "sorry my mistake" and billed my brother for the incorrect surveys!
Tough issue for sure, no matter what you still have to be neighbors every single day and not just during hunting season. I like your original plan or walking the property line and discussing. I personally don't like posting interior fences as it seems like accusing your neighbor of trespassing even before it happens.

Hey if the guy is getting kicked out of one of his spots I'd let him know right now instead of waiting until a week before the season. Good luck with your situation.
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