While digging through the Internet I wound up on a forum where some woman was talking about how her husband wanted to get a shotgun for homedefense. Great idea if you ask me. But she goes on to say its a horrible idea and she thinks he should buy a (get this!) a home defense compound bow! Which to me sounds like the silliest thing iv ever heard. I told her all weapons are tools, and each one is for a certain thing. You wouldn't take someone out a mile away with a pistol because its just not for that just like you don't use a screw driver as a hammer. The bad part is, everyone was agreeing with her! I told her that if she teaches and instilled firearm safty to her child she would be fine. (She was worried about her kid getting ahold of a gun) and sense I was born, if I pointed a cap or water gun at something you wouldn't shoot with a real gun my dad would take it and explain why. to this day i credit that type of parenting to responsible gun safty and the reason skme kids are more responsible with a gum them a good bit of adults i know. Anyway, people were saying if its dark in your house and you fire a gun pull give away your position but of you use a bow you have the element of suprise and confusion. But I doubt the best archer in the world couldn't take down 3 men with guns on hos living room if its pitch black. In my opinion, a home defense bow is the silliest thing in the world. Don't get me wrong, I love my bow more than almost any gun iv ever had, but still. Its the wrong tool for the job..
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Here in California compound bows are all we will have left to defend ourselves with sooner or later. The problems with a compound bow for home defense, as I can see it are 1) get your release, 2) nock an arrow, 3) try to move through your house and maintain clearance for your bow, 4) it will probably be dark, how are you going to see your target? 5) what if there is more than one intruder, 6) what if you miss?
If a bow was all I had, I would use it. It would not be my first choice. I think I'd rather have a baseball bat.
If a bow was all I had, I would use it. It would not be my first choice. I think I'd rather have a baseball bat.
If you absolutely had to have a 'twanger' for a self-defence weapon, a pistol crossbow would probably be your best bet (small, manoeuvrable, can be carried in battery) - in that dumb bizarro world scenario. Personally, I'd rather take my chances with a wooden baseball bat with a couple dozen field points or fixed blade broad-heads screwed into the whacky-end for a home-made Morning Star / Mace because that's a gift that can just keep on 'giving'.
Or... y'know... just buy a gun and don't be idiotic enough to leave it lying around, unsecured and loaded, next to a small child.
Or... y'know... just buy a gun and don't be idiotic enough to leave it lying around, unsecured and loaded, next to a small child.
Apparently none of you have ever tried to see your sight pins through a peep sight in the dark...not gonna happen...its a stupid idea no matter how you look at it..not to mention even if you do connect an arrow to an intruder,unlike a bullet they don't go down emediately so then you have an enraged intruder hopefully for your benefit that isn't armed headed your direction with the intent to harm..now try and nock an arrow,in the dark,stay calm,take aim thru a peep you can't see squat through and execute the shot all before the intruder has gotten to you....not gonna happen...ill keep my gun handy,thanks..atleast if I fire off a gun,the neighbors are awoke and hopefully intelligent enough to call 911,I have a tactical flashlight on my gun wich is activated by a pressure switch,so no fumbling around in the dark or confusions of where or what or who am I aiming at..and ofcourse the most important,if I miss in a split second I can fire off 11 more rounds of buckshot...its a no brainer really..
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I would never think about getting my bow.
I would never think about getting my bow.
Just playing devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion, I think it's crazy to choose a bow over a firearm for personal defense (for what I see as obvious reasons). But if you are making a home defense bow would you really use a loop and release and peep? Why would you not use a kisser and no-glove string cushions. I got nothing for quick reloading of an arrow in the dark. Heck for all of that I'm sure there is a way to mount a stream light to the stabilizer for blinding illumination. That may increase your first shot accuracy. I can see it now, "New for 2014, the tactical home defense compound bow."
I still think firearm education is the most important part of this OP. I sell firearms at work and run across people everyday that are ignorant to how safe they can actually be. It's up to the operator to determine how safe a firearm is.
I still think firearm education is the most important part of this OP. I sell firearms at work and run across people everyday that are ignorant to how safe they can actually be. It's up to the operator to determine how safe a firearm is.
1...move to a state where you can use and legally own a gun to protect your family in your own home.
2..buy a pump action shot gun with a short bird hunting barrel, ,like a turkey gun..
3..Buy some good large shot turkey loads and practice with them.
End of problems. .Racking a 870 in the dark will cause some of the most hardened criminals to turn tail and run. Those that don't. ..usually don't get to tell about it.
Mac
2..buy a pump action shot gun with a short bird hunting barrel, ,like a turkey gun..
3..Buy some good large shot turkey loads and practice with them.
End of problems. .Racking a 870 in the dark will cause some of the most hardened criminals to turn tail and run. Those that don't. ..usually don't get to tell about it.
Mac
I'm amazed at how many here are trying to justify the use of a bow.
Go get your parents so they can respond to the post.
Go get your parents so they can respond to the post.
Ok, I'd never you a bow for home defense and find it a stupid idea, but when I read the topic the first thing that come to mind that I was actually expecting was a, small youth size compound with a crazy tactical design with laser sight/flashlight combo. I may have to just make one of theis and just sell them o all theis people
I've been trying to tell my brother that a crossbow is a poor home defense choice (he owns handguns to boot), let alone a compound bow. A handgun is never far from me when I'm home.
Ask a thief to dryfire your bow , or wrap it around his head .... The only ways to defend yourself with a bow in close quarters.
Seen it on the Dukes of Hazzard. Should work fine. Haha kidding, that's stupid. Ever stare down another man with a gun? Plans A-L go out the window pretty fast. I know everyone is a "stone cold killer" but reality is it doesn't always go that way. Ever seen where that cop and the perp empty their pistols at each other an both miss every shot? And they were on an 8 foot balcony! Haha Besides arrows kill with hemaroging (spelling), waiting on a deer to bleed out isn't like waiting on a crack head to. Educate your kids. My boys would never touch our pistols or shotgun I keep for defense. Just like they wouldn't snag the car keys and go play with the car. I find removing the mystique from guns goes a long way in understanding their dangers as well. Plus none of my guns are red, you have to chamber a round to fire and racking a slide on a glock isn't something that happens on accident. Even on patrol I never carried red. I practiced it thousands of times. That way if my hands aren't the first on the gun it buys me a little time yet takes me a fraction of a second to do.
Here's a link to it of anybody wants to take a look. I'm Gerald
http://m.topix.com/forum/city/stuart-fl/TBJLNLPE5SLEMST10
http://m.topix.com/forum/city/stuart-fl/TBJLNLPE5SLEMST10
Well, If I were going to buy a weapon specifically for home defense no I would not have a bow as my first choice. We do have many guns in the house but we also have 4 kids. Now, my 2 oldest have their own shotguns as do I but everything is locked up. The guns and ammo are in different safes and the keys for those safes are in yet another safe. We have an array of shotguns, rifles, pistols and I've shot most of them once or twice but really am only half way comfortable with my own gun. Now, with all those safes and different kinds of ammo to sift through plus making sure I have the right gun (my hubby has one that looks a lot like mine) it's going to take some time to get out the gun, load it and be ready to fire. Once ready, yes that would be the weapon of choice. I think just the cocking sound may scare most intruders away. I mean who isn't familiar with the sound of a pump shotgun chambering a round?
All that said, I wouldn't rule out me with a bow. My bows are put away but not locked up, they are not in the same area as the guns, I am WAY more comfortable with my bow. Using my bow I wouldn't take the time to aim and settle or use a release. A human chest (or any part) is a big target. I'd just eyeball the arrow like instinctive shooting.
I don't know if any of you know this or not but Chris Berry is a detective for his real job and he made an arrest using his bow.
All that said, I wouldn't rule out me with a bow. My bows are put away but not locked up, they are not in the same area as the guns, I am WAY more comfortable with my bow. Using my bow I wouldn't take the time to aim and settle or use a release. A human chest (or any part) is a big target. I'd just eyeball the arrow like instinctive shooting.
I don't know if any of you know this or not but Chris Berry is a detective for his real job and he made an arrest using his bow.
A bow has almost no stopping power. Even a 3" cut through the heart would probably not have a guy drop dead and you're not going to make that shot more than 1/100 times in that situation.
Your odds would be better with a baseball bat imo.
Your odds would be better with a baseball bat imo.
People from West Europe that don't shoot at clay disks. :-D
Hello,
I'm considered by some (not myself, but some) to be an authority on a certain type of C&R bolt-action rifle. I've also done quite a bit of bullet testing, though that ran out around the time a good internet friend of mine died. He and I would compare notes as our methods were similar, and we could correlate each others' findings. As well, bullet technology seems to have peaked for mechanical methods of expansion and incapacitation. The future lay in "smart matrix" sintered metals and in electronics, I think.
Anyway... to the bow. We must look to history for the bow.
When the bow was a weapon of war and the primary weapon of hunting, what did folks use to defend their homes?
Castles had cannon and archers. It would seem that history dictates that archers need fortified positions from which to loose their arrows.
No, before the flintlock, the choice of the common man was the sword, club, or knife. Some gentry had wheel locks, but they were priced far above what the average person might afford. Even when the flintlock was introduced, the common man might have only a fowling piece and a single charge.
The bow was made relatively easily, and would likely be used to keep wolves off sheep as it could be possessed more cheaply and arrows loosed faster than most early firearms might be fired.
The bow needed room to be maneuvered, as did the fowling piece, sling, and whatever else may be used.
If the bow were a good thing for home defense, then we'd have a history of it being used such. The history we have is of swords and daggers and clubs. This is what was used for home defense, for close battle.
Regards,
Josh
I'm considered by some (not myself, but some) to be an authority on a certain type of C&R bolt-action rifle. I've also done quite a bit of bullet testing, though that ran out around the time a good internet friend of mine died. He and I would compare notes as our methods were similar, and we could correlate each others' findings. As well, bullet technology seems to have peaked for mechanical methods of expansion and incapacitation. The future lay in "smart matrix" sintered metals and in electronics, I think.
Anyway... to the bow. We must look to history for the bow.
When the bow was a weapon of war and the primary weapon of hunting, what did folks use to defend their homes?
Castles had cannon and archers. It would seem that history dictates that archers need fortified positions from which to loose their arrows.
No, before the flintlock, the choice of the common man was the sword, club, or knife. Some gentry had wheel locks, but they were priced far above what the average person might afford. Even when the flintlock was introduced, the common man might have only a fowling piece and a single charge.
The bow was made relatively easily, and would likely be used to keep wolves off sheep as it could be possessed more cheaply and arrows loosed faster than most early firearms might be fired.
The bow needed room to be maneuvered, as did the fowling piece, sling, and whatever else may be used.
If the bow were a good thing for home defense, then we'd have a history of it being used such. The history we have is of swords and daggers and clubs. This is what was used for home defense, for close battle.
Regards,
Josh
So, she thinks that a shotgun is a horrible idea for home defense, and a compound bow is a great Idea? Unbelieveable
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