I am not sure your question. Are you asking how far the center shot would be off if you shot off the shelf? The only aluminum riser designed to shoot off the shelf would be a CD Archery riser that has a modified shelf design--CD offers the usual ILF flat shelf plus a model with a "hump." You would not want to shoot an Olympic recurve ILF riser off the shelf. Those are simply are not designed for that. You would want a rest and plunger and then set the center shot off that. On one of my ILF risers, the arrow sits about 1/2" from the sight window side of the riser and 3/4" above the shelf--this is with 4mm carbon arrows. I imagine that would probably be fairly consistent among Olympic ILF risers.

 

Hikari,

You apparently have never attended any IBO shoots. A lot of folks shoot 25" risers off the shelf. I do make a bump for my 25" risers.

 

Never underestimate a determined archer.

BTW, that 1/2" measure I gave was the approximate center shot on my Hoyt Xakt, which came with a Hoyt Super Rest. However, I never shot the Super Rest with that riser, so I can't be much help.

 

OK, I'll get more specific.

I do not want to shoot a 25" ILF Target Riser off the shelf.

I am curious to know if the Hoyt Super Rest would position the arrow properly if used with the Hoyt 25" XACT Riser.

The complete Super Rest package has .125" and .050" adhesive spacers and the plastic rest is .125" thick if measured at the little flap that acts as a rudimentary plunger. This would space the arrow out .300" from the riser, if the complete kit is used.

I understand that there are comments indicating the Hoyt Super Rest does not handle downward pressure exerted while string walking.

I am not trying to "cheap out", I have sufficient funds in the budget for a top end plunger/rest; but I like simplicity, if it is functional.

I have a long history with Hoyt Super Rests from the mid 1970's on up, used on old school one piece target recurves. I have just never had an ILF.

Hoyt Super Rest on my 1972 vintage Yamaha YG68

 

"...I am curious to know if the Hoyt Super Rest would position the arrow properly if used with the Hoyt 25" XACT Riser... "

No. You would still need to use a stud or plunger.

 

Thanks, I wondered about that, after looking at the pictures you posted.

That bolt/side plate is out quite a ways.

 

That's a Hoyt Radian riser. Hoyt's changed some in their designs over the years, but the geometry has stayed the same forever.

 

Y -

Would the Hoyt Super rest position the arrow properly on an xact (XAKT???) riser? Anyone who answers that question needs to be put on your ignore list.

Will it "position" the arrow, but properly depends on the arrow diameter, its static spine, length, head weight, YOUR draw length and form, the limbs you are using and limb bolt preload. So it becomes a definite "it depends".

If the tune isn't important to you, then you can do whatever you like and the arrow will appear to shoot fine.
Just sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel; just use a plunger.
It's a fire and forget thing and really is way simpler than what you're trying to do,

Viper1 out.

 

Thank you Viper for your usual condescending, arrogant and mean-spirited reply. Interesting that you tell him to ignore anyone that answers the question, then you continue to answer the question.

 

Jim -

I generally don't bother reading other posts - for good reasons.
But please remember that's there's a difference between not reading and can't read.

Happy father's day.

Viper1 out.

 

I think the OP is asking how far past center is a 25" riser cut. Well about 1/2". But you should measure it or ask the manufacturer.
Pretty simple math.
.298 arrow shaft diameter.
Divided by 1/2 = .149
.5"-.149"= .351" striker plate.
This is your tuning starting point.

 

But you should measure it or ask the manufacturer.

Out of curiosity, I just filled out an online question form for Hoyt and sent it this morning.

In hindsight, I should have done that and bypassed posting a question on the forum

 

My bows are marked.

 

I am not sure I'd buy an ILF bow and if I did, I'd likely use something a bit more sophisticated on it but I did get this reply from Hoyt;

I am just posting the comment for general interest.

I don't agree or disagree with it.

Anyone wanting to rebut it might want to address their comments to Hoyt, since it is Hoy's information.

 

Y -

Hoyt used to supply those rests with most of their bows, to get the new owner shooting.

Like I tried to tell you, of course it will "work", in the sense that it work on just about any "modern recurve".
Will it tune or even "work" properly without a plunger? That's the part we can't answer and shouldn't try.

Viper1 out.

 

"Should be capable of fitting".... not exactly a ringing endorsement but about as good an answer as could reasonably be expected.